<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div class="" style=""><span class="" style=""><br style=""><br></span></div><div class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">Thank you for the answer.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">Honestly I don't know(in person) who have made the modification. So I can't explain regarding the removal of author in modified version nor the translation of comments. Yes, it is in Bahasa Indonesia.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">Honestly I don't know about the hyphenation rule in OpenOffice or LibreOffice, because I have never used this kind of thing in word processor. And I didn't event know about a feature like this. I know this hyphenation-thing after I knew LaTeX.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class=""
style="">As for example <span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">of properly </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">hyphenated words to tex-hyphen, I can't provide right now, since I am in internet cafe, while the document is on my PC in my house. But if it is important, maybe this document should be useful.</span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="">http://iwayan.info/LaTeX/TEMPLATE_PI_Skirpsi_Tesis_Desertasi_2011/Penulisan%20Skripsi/MainTemplateSkripsi.pdf<br class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" style="">The document above is Bachelor Theses (am I right?how do you say it in english?) of the one who made the modification of the pattern rule. Unfortunately that is in Bahasa Indonesia too. </div><div class="" style="">On page 33 on the document there is a table displaying the differences between before and after
modification.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">On my document I made, here are examples of words that is not properly hyphenated: memerlukan ==> memerluk-an, skripsi ==> skr-psi, and some other words ended with -kan. Those are the result of using the original hyph-id.tex</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">While using the modified version the result is: <span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">memerlukan ==> memerlu-kan, skripsi ==> skrp-si.</span></div><div class="" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><br></span></div><div class="" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">I think that is enough for now. Thank you.</span></div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco,
monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> Pada Sabtu, 24 Mei 2014 20:42, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> menulis:<br class="" style=""> </font> </div> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <div class="" style="">Hello,<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Masrosid Dua wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style="">> Hi all, I'm posting this message to this list because I think this is the<br clear="none" class="" style="">> right place to ask.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Yes, you are at the right place.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">> I am writing a document using
LaTeX and using babel package with option for<br clear="none" class="" style="">> Bahasa Indonesia. I found there were some error regarding<br clear="none" class="" style="">> hyphenation. So I decided to search on google and found a different version<br clear="none" class="" style="">> of hyphenation pattern here<br clear="none" class="" style="">> <a shape="rect" href="http://iwayan.info/LaTeX/TEMPLATE_PI_Skirpsi_Tesis_Desertasi_2011/Penulisan%20Skripsi/indohyph.tex" target="_blank" class="" style="">http://iwayan.info/LaTeX/TEMPLATE_PI_Skirpsi_Tesis_Desertasi_2011/Penulisan%20Skripsi/indohyph.tex</a><br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Thanks a lot for pointing this out.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">> I found that version has some modification over the original file in the<br clear="none" class="" style="">> distribution (I use texlive 2013).<br clear="none"
class="" style="">> After doing some research how to install it into my texlive, finally I can<br clear="none" class="" style="">> install and use it.<br clear="none" class="" style="">> And in fact, it is better. The problem is solved.<br clear="none" class="" style="">><br clear="none" class="" style="">> But, the question is that, I think when I update the whole system from CTAN,<br clear="none" class="" style="">> that would be broken again,<br clear="none" class="" style="">> because it will download the former pattern.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Yes, most probably that's true.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">> So, why isn't there any update on the original?<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">The main reason is because neither the problems nor the existence of<br clear="none" class=""
style="">better/newer/different patterns have ever been pointed out.</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">> how about replace the the<br clear="none" class="" style="">> original version with later version such that<br clear="none" class="" style="">> others can make use of it?<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">I won't "simply replace it", for the following reasons at least:<br clear="none" class="" style="">- The file is clearly a derivative work, but it doesn't say so. Worse<br clear="none" class="" style="">yet, the author of that new file just removed the original authors<br clear="none" class="" style="">which is certainly not allowed.<br clear="none" class="" style="">- All the comments have been translated from English to another<br clear="none" class="" style="">language (probably Bahasa Indonesia?). It would be preferable to keep<br clear="none" class="" style="">the comments
in English.<div class="" id="yqtfd13976" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">> Can someone explain to me how to update that pattern file?</div><br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">If you are asking about your local installation only:<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Put indohyph.tex to texmf-local/tex/generic/, copy loadhyph-id.tex to<br clear="none" class="" style="">texmf-local/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/loadhyph and replace the line<br clear="none" class="" style="">"hyph-id.tex" with "indohyph.tex" in that file.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">If you are asking about the proper procedure:<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">We should first try to contact the original authors (I CC-ed them) and<br clear="none" class="" style="">ask them to review the changes. I would then
put revised patterns to<br clear="none" class="" style="">our repository, submit them to CTAN and the patterns would then<br clear="none" class="" style="">semi-automatically appear in TeX Live 2014 a day or two after that.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">In case that the authors wouldn't reply, we would go for plan B, but<br clear="none" class="" style="">getting an official statement from them would be by far the best<br clear="none" class="" style="">option, so let's first wait for their answer.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Independent of everything else please send us a couple of properly<br clear="none" class="" style="">hyphenated words to tex-hyphen, (optionally together with the wrong<br clear="none" class="" style="">results that you get with the old patterns).<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Which patterns are used in
OpenOffice/LibreOffice?<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Mojca<div class="" id="yqtfd91230" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>