<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/19 Peter Heslin <<a href="mailto:p.j.heslin@durham.ac.uk">p.j.heslin@durham.ac.uk</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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</div>The root meaning of "capitalize" (from "caput") refers to the practice<br>
of making the first letter in a word uppercase in proper names, at the<br>
start of a sentence, etc. In this usage, in the traditional<br>
typography of ancient Greek, capital letters do not lose their<br>
accents; they shift position.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Correct.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
On the other hand, when an entire word is set in uppercase, these<br>
letters do lose their accents, traditionally. The Unicode standard is<br>
not well equipped to articulate this distinction -- indeed, it<br>
deliberately ignores this situation.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Also correct and that is what I was saying all these days.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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I think that the correct level for this typographic practice to be<br>
handled is in OpenType. I am no expert on it, but I imagine that it<br>
should be possible for a font to provide mappings for text in small<br>
caps and all caps that do away with accents for text set in these<br>
typographic contexts.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Indeed this is a solution. But it is not backwards compatible.<br>I do not expect font companies to release new fonts fixing this<br>issue. In addition, this requires to be able to enable an OpenType <br>
feature, something that cannot be done with the present version <br>of fontspec. I have solved the problem of producing a correct<br>caps & small caps version of Ο άυλος αυλός, but even this<br>solution assumes that the correct \uccodes have been defined.<br>
If you try \textsc{Ο άυλος αυλός} with an ordinary font you will<br>get nonsense!<br><br></div></div>A.S.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Apostolos Syropoulos<br>366, 28th October Str.<br>GR-671 00 Xanthi, GREECE<br>Web-page at <a href="http://obelix.ee.duth.gr/~apostolo">http://obelix.ee.duth.gr/~apostolo</a><br>
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