[metapost] Does MetaPost catch on?
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Thu Sep 2 22:53:34 CEST 2010
Am 02.09.2010 20:21, schrieb Reinhard Kotucha:
> On 2 September 2010 Stephan Hennig wrote:
> > Am 02.09.2010 16:25, schrieb Hans Hagen:
> > > On 2-9-2010 3:25, Stephan Hennig wrote:
> > >>
> > >> for OTF fonts, that probably wouldn't include mathematics. So again, a
> > >> full TeX installation were needed. Too bad.
> > >
> > > well, mp is not tex and meant for simple graphics; if you want the
> > > fullpower of tex (and typesetting) you need to look at other tools
> > The problem is, MetaPost is for technical graphics, but those in turn
> > often call for mathematical typesetting. Just think about graphs ... A
> > troff + MetaPost bundle would fill the gap. But this is all
> > theoretical, since, personally, I'm fine with TeX. I just wonder if
> > such a bundle could bring more people to MetaPost.
> I'm wondering how many people can be convinced to learn troff.
I haven't find the time to learn troff, yet I think the learning curve
is less steep than TeX's. But to cite from documentation of troff's
Mathematical expressions are described in a language
designed to be easy to use by people who know neither
mathematics nor typesetting.
I have never read something like that about TeX. Really, it occurred
more than once to me, that I found LaTeX getting in the way when
typesetting in MetaPost.
> > > or follow the reverse approach: use mp inside tex which is what
> > > mplib is for
> > Yeah, but what typesetting system are you suggesting that is portable
> > and easy to learn?
> TeX. You need a system which people are familiar with.
Well, I'm wondering how to bring people to MetaPost that aren't familiar
with TeX, yet. The answer might well be, there is no greater audience
for MetaPost out there.
> What do non-TeX-users do with the graphics then? Convert them to jpeg
> in order to use them in Word documents?
;-) I'm not thinking about Word users, but Inkscape users and other
graphics enthusiasts, that know what a ps or svg file is. Another
example, and let me say in advance that I'm not involved in the
OpenStreetMap project in any way and don't know what rendering machine
they are currently using (several, AFAIK), but I think it would be great
to see a MetaPost-based map renderer that really typesets street, city
> Before you invest more time you can ask the Asymptote guys how many
> people already use Asymptote for anything else (except SVG for output)
> but including the graphics into TeX documents.
But isn't Asymptote using TeX for rendering text labels, too? Then no
surprise there is a large TeX fraction among Asymptote users. I'm more
interested in the non-TeX fraction. Sure, I'll contact Asymptote guys
(and report back). Thanks for the hint!
 I just found troff.org linking to Hobby's original MetaPost manual
dating 1992 instead of a current one. Isn't that a sign that MetaPost
has disappeared from public perception?
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