<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Alain Schremmer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:schremmer.alain@gmail.com">schremmer.alain@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Rene Borgella wrote:<br>
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1) presentations should focus on Visuals, NOT text<br>
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Particularly as 99.99% of the presenters cannot help but read the text.<br>
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I always wanted, but never dared, to raise my hand, and say the obvious:": :Excuse me, but, even before I was in first grade, I could already read."<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
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4) Tufte argues that we are asking too much of our audiences if we want them to listen to us, read the text, and look at the visuals simultaneously, all while thinking about the ideas we are presenting<br>
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Absolutely! I am writing the magnum opus in such a way that students don't have to take notes. Well, they have been so well trained that it is quite a battle to get them not to take notes. I think they feel naked.</blockquote>
<div><br>I have been following this thread with interest. Everyone has raised some very good points. I teach at a Junior College with an enrollment of 22,000 credit students per semester. I refuse to do a presentation with Powerpoint(c). In the past fifteen years I have given one presentation with Impress (sorry--the situation demanded it). Fortunately I am in a situation where I can get away without the x#$o&* slides.<br>
<br>With your statement "it is quite a battle to get them not to take notes" I could no longer lurk in the shadows. Please, lets trade students (please, please, please). I would love students that "feel naked" when they do not take notes. Please do not misunderstand--all of your comments are great; but, I would love to have students that take good notes (he he).<br>
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--schremmer<br>
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P.S. Do you recall which book that last argument comes from?<br>
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