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<br><div><div>On 17.12.2008, at 09:23, Rolf Schmolling wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi, <div>since i started this row some month ago (no response on the list then) I'd like to elaborate a bit what I'd expect.</div><div><br></div><div>Actually the "problem" is still present, I am currently still using jurabib, basically for two reasons: I know how this particular package works … – no modifications of the really complicated code – some things I have not been able to accomplish like a better manage of the archival-type entries. The other reason is that my references (kept in BibDesk) are set up for jurabib.</div></blockquote><div><br></div>Just to make you feel more at easy: I also moved from jurabib to biblatex and I also use BibDesk, so the transition certainly can be done.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div><div>Simon and Dominik have promised that many things are easier to accomplish, like multibib-functionality and formatting of references. Furthermore since jurabib is not developed any more this is a dead end. I do believe them but… 1) setting things up is a lot of work (learning, changing the references (field and such alike) testing 2) most important learning to write a NEW entry-type (archival) which I believe is not trivial. So I am still shying away from that huge effort.</div><div><br></div><div>In fact, I rather like the manual to be 175pages (but so far the manual I have seen was much much shorter?!) I just recently installed and updated TexLive2008 (wow that was easy!) and as far as I know BibLaTeX was not part of this (hint hint: please include this as the beta could be kept updated easily with the new package-Manager!!) so maybe I missed the long long manual. I have to admit I am not the programmer- or mathematical inclined type, writing macros is too much for me. So I ultimately don't know if I will be able to achieve my goal here – in the end it is to finish my thesis – not be perfect with LaTeX/Bibtex/BibLaTeX/jurabib etc.</div></blockquote><div><br></div>The latest version of biblatex (0.8b) does indeed come with a 175 page manual, so you might want to check your version. As for the inclusion of biblatex into TL: Philipp Lehmann has specifically asked distributors *not* to bundle biblatex at this point. I think who wants to wait until version 1.0.</div><div><br></div><div>As for your specific needs. Do you actually need a new document type for this or can this be done with 'unpublished'? Or can you post a tpyical example and how it should look like so I can wrap my head around it?</div><div><br></div><div>If you really can't do it with 'unpublished', it might be a good idea to post a feature request on <a href="http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=244752">http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=244752</a> . Philipp has been very responsive to user requests.</div><div><br></div><div>simon</div><div><br></div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Simon Spiegel</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Steinhaldenstr. 50</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">8002 Zürich</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://www.simifilm.ch">http://www.simifilm.ch</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">„</font></span></span>I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">“</font></span></span> Stanley Kubrick</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span> </div><br></body></html>