<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Dec 1, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Joachim Kreimer-de Fries wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> <div><br></div><div>Moin Mac-TeXters,</div><div><br></div><div>in the thread "tlmgr failure", reacting to my footer</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">MacTeXLive 200 - TeXShop 2.14-svn - LyX 1.6</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Nov 30, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">By the way, why TeXShop AND LyX?</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I am not about to switch but a friend who picked LyX asked me why I picked TeXShop.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">(My response was that, learning curve apart, TeXShop (inter alia) could do a lot more than LyX since I could control the packages I used. He seemed a bit skeptical though—he is a professional programmer.)</div></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><br></div></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Luxi Serif'; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Luxi Serif'; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Luxi Serif'; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); font-size: 12px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; "></span></div></span></div></div></span></span></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>TeXShop and LyX seem totally different to me---LyX is more word-processor like, with a GUI for various document design parameters such as margins, spacing, etc., etc., giving "What you see is what you mean" representation of the user's input; it's possible, I think, to use it w/o entering much LaTeX code, and maybe none at all.</div><div><br></div><div>TeXShop is a text editor that provides a graphical interface to the user's installation of TeX/LateX and whatever other TeX derivatives he or she wants to use; has a companion viewer that must be updated by typesetting; and requires that all TeX/LaTeX etc. code be entered by the user. This means that someone can create any document his or her TeX/LaTeX skills can provide. LyX makes it easier for someone to create a document, provides nice TeX-ified output, but is less flexible.</div><div><br></div><div>I am not a big LyX user so someone please add to this . . . </div><div><br></div><div>There seems to be a divergence of opinion concerning whether LaTeX is easy or hard to use, enjoyable or not. Joachim in the previous posting finds it annoying, but necessary; I find it far preferable to Word or iWork, not just for its power, but for its intuitiveness. How many times have I searched the menus of Word looking for something like how to delete page numbers on the first page, change margins in a new section, generate a table of contents, etc., etc.? No more!</div><div><br></div><div>I don't know if LyX has the same kinds of limitations.</div><div><br></div><div>Best to all,</div><div><br></div><div>-Adam</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Luxi Serif'; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Luxi Serif'; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Luxi Serif'; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); font-size: 12px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">------------------</span></div></span></div></div></span></span></span></div></div></blockquote></div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div>Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS</div><div>--</div><div><a href="mailto:agoldstein@iona.edu">agoldstein@iona.edu</a></div><div><a href="mailto:a.m.goldstein@mac.com">a.m.goldstein@mac.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein">http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein</a></div><div>--</div><div>(914) 637-2717</div><div>--</div><div>Dept of Philosophy</div><div>Iona College</div><div>715 North Avenue</div><div>New Rochelle NY 10801</div></div></span> </div><br></body></html>