<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Although I do recommend LaTeX to my students, some resist, and I don't force them for the reasons CFR mentions.</div><div><br></div><div>The issue of journals not accepting PDF or LaTeX and requiring RTF or MSW, has made me feel like I'm on a Quixotic quest. (Conversion to RTF is not bad, as long as you do not use any more esoteric commands. A student of mine recently had to change 40+ commands to get the conversion to RTF to work.)<br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; 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"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">_____________________________</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">Professor Michael Kubovy</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">University of Virginia</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">Department of Psychology</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><b style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; ">USPS</span></span></span></i></b><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); 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"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">Charlottesville, VA 22904-4400</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><b style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; ">Parcels</span></span></span></i></b><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">:</span></span></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"><span class="Apple-converted-tab"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">Room 102</span></span></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"><span class="Apple-converted-tab"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">Gilmer Hall</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; 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font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">Charlottesville, VA 22903</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><b style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; ">Office</span></span></span></i></b><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">:</span></span></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"><span class="Apple-converted-tab"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">B011</span></span></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"><span class="Apple-converted-tab"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">+1-434-982-4729</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><b style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; ">Lab</span></span></span></i></b><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">:</span></span></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"><span class="Apple-converted-tab"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">B019</span></span></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"><span class="Apple-converted-tab"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">+1-434-982-4751</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><b style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; ">Fax</span></span></span></i></b><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">:</span></span></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"><span class="Apple-converted-tab"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">+1-434-982-4766</span></span></span></i></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#800000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 0, 0); "><b style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; "><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; ">WWW</span></span></span></i></b><i style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; ">:</span></span></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"><span class="Apple-converted-tab"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic; "><a href="http://www.people.virginia.edu/~mk9y/">http://www.people.virginia.edu/~mk9y/</a></span></span></span></i></font></p></span></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div><br><div><div>On Sep 18, 2008, at 9:47 AM, <a href="mailto:cfrees@imapmail.org">cfrees@imapmail.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; ">Then again, I wouldn't really recommend LaTeX to somebody in my field as things are. Way too many conferences/journals etc. won't take PDF submissions. So maybe that's part of it, too. If OpenOffice had been as good as it is now (on OS X), I'm not sure I would have switched to LaTeX. I only really did it because Word kept chucking my work away and I couldn't find a decent alternative at the time. Which isn't to say that I would consider switching to OpenOffice now - though I have been<br>wondering recently if this wouldn't really be a whole lot more sensible. Turning LaTeX into Word is a real pain.</span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>