From bowenalan03 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 15:56:37 2014
From: bowenalan03 at gmail.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 09:56:37 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
Message-ID: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am finding that during lengthy sessions of work with TeXShop 3.35, there
typically comes a point where Command-T no longer works. The same is also
true when I select ?Typeset? from the Typeset menu. The only way to typeset
then is to select the ?Typeset? button in the source-file window menu.
Quitting and re-opening TeXShop solves the problem.

Is this a bug or have I somehow corrupted my installation of TeXShop?

Alan
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Thu May  1 16:08:06 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 09:08:06 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On May 1, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Alan Bowen <bowenalan03 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am finding that during lengthy sessions of work with TeXShop 3.35, there typically comes a point where Command-T no longer works. The same is also true when I select ?Typeset? from the Typeset menu. The only way to typeset then is to select the ?Typeset? button in the source-file window menu. Quitting and re-opening TeXShop solves the problem.
> 
> Is this a bug or have I somehow corrupted my installation of TeXShop?
> 
> Alan

Howdy,

Interesting. Besides the session being lengthy is there anything else that you are doing when this happens? Are other shortcuts or toolbar buttons still operational? If you opens a new document do they work?

The more info Dick Koch can get the better.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Thu May  1 16:25:46 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 14:25:46 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] 2 small issues concerning texshop
Message-ID: <CF87A772.1E624%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>

Hi,
Here are two related issues that have probably already been there. The first may be purely an OS issue: when I restart the computer, the source windows are reopened in the spaces where they were originally, but the preview windows open in the first space. This brings me to the second issue: I duly close the preview windows, but when I do a forward search in the source window (say, cmd-click), an empty preview window opens (i.e., the name of the file shows in the header, but the display is blank). I consequently have to typeset in order to have the file displayed.
There are, of course, ways to deal with these issues, such as moving all the preview files,too, to the spaces where they belong. I don?t know that one can do anything to fix the first issue. For the second, though, to the extent that there is a simple fix to the implementation of the forward-search command (ensuring that the pdf file is open properly), it may be worth doing it.
Thanks.
Nicolae

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From bowenalan03 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 16:37:19 2014
From: bowenalan03 at gmail.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 10:37:19 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <BBC79F0F-DCDA-4C7C-B445-DE260D3D670B@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <BBC79F0F-DCDA-4C7C-B445-DE260D3D670B@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <CAFMOkGV0HnFJNtNi1_4uUT6GGCHjxr335U4yA90enT+5grb50w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Herb?

I will experiment further. But right now I should say that I am typesetting
a project in ConTeXt that has several components. That means that I spend
most of the time working on a number of components files and typeset by
selecting the project .pdf file by typing Command-T.

More soon?this behavior usually occurs when I am thinking of something else!

Alan



On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>wrote:

>
> On May 1, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Alan Bowen <bowenalan03 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am finding that during lengthy sessions of work with TeXShop 3.35,
> there typically comes a point where Command-T no longer works. The same is
> also true when I select ?Typeset? from the Typeset menu. The only way to
> typeset then is to select the ?Typeset? button in the source-file window
> menu. Quitting and re-opening TeXShop solves the problem.
> >
> > Is this a bug or have I somehow corrupted my installation of TeXShop?
> >
> > Alan
>
> Howdy,
>
> Interesting. Besides the session being lengthy is there anything else that
> you are doing when this happens? Are other shortcuts or toolbar buttons
> still operational? If you opens a new document do they work?
>
> The more info Dick Koch can get the better.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Thu May  1 16:46:55 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 09:46:55 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <CAFMOkGV0HnFJNtNi1_4uUT6GGCHjxr335U4yA90enT+5grb50w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <BBC79F0F-DCDA-4C7C-B445-DE260D3D670B@wideopenwest.com>
 <CAFMOkGV0HnFJNtNi1_4uUT6GGCHjxr335U4yA90enT+5grb50w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64D5F444-0DAA-4154-BC7E-70A8E3AD3025@wideopenwest.com>


On May 1, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Alan Bowen <bowenalan03 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Herb?
> 
> I will experiment further. But right now I should say that I am typesetting a project in ConTeXt that has several components. That means that I spend most of the time working on a number of components files and typeset by selecting the project .pdf file by typing Command-T. 
> 

Howdy,

Is there a reason you have to select the project file to typeset? Place the line

% !TEX root=path/to/project.tex

at the top of each of the component files. Then Typesetting with the one of the project files active will automatically typeset the project file. Here path/to.project.tex is the absolute or relative path from the component file to the project file; e.g., if book.tex, the project file, is in some directory and chapter1.tex, a component file is in a sub-directory, chapters, of that directory place the line

% !TEX root=../book.tex

at the top of the chapter1.tex file.

> More soon?this behavior usually occurs when I am thinking of something else!
> 
> Alan
> 

Isn't that always the case!? :-)

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Thu May  1 17:18:56 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 08:18:56 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] 2 small issues concerning texshop
In-Reply-To: <030881F7-CA48-4044-B429-3E20F2FDD770@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <CF87A772.1E624%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <FE9189AE-BFAD-4DB1-992F-468D83E0D703@math.uoregon.edu>
 <CF87AA20.1E629%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <030881F7-CA48-4044-B429-3E20F2FDD770@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <3A9F7B93-2075-4F25-8985-4C53F4575CEF@math.uoregon.edu>

Nicolae,

Aha. Perhaps after all I understand what you are doing. Let's see.

You open TeXShop, and the two windows open, but the Preview window
opens in the wrong spot. I can confirm this. It will be easy to fix, and a fix
should be in the next TeXShop. But that may not be for a while.

Then you close the Preview window. (I don't understand why you don't
just move it, but let that be.)

Then you use forward search, hoping that the search will open the preview
window automatically. Instead it opens a blank window. You then typeset, and the
blank window is filled with the correct material. I can confirm this behavior.

The behavior doesn't surprise me, since I never imagined that someone would
want to search from source to a preview window not yet open. I'll put this on the
"to be fixed" list, but it has very low priority. 

Why don't you just move the preview window to the correct spot and search?
Why close it?

Dick Koch

From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Thu May  1 18:00:37 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 16:00:37 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] 2 small issues concerning texshop
In-Reply-To: <3A9F7B93-2075-4F25-8985-4C53F4575CEF@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <CF87A772.1E624%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <FE9189AE-BFAD-4DB1-992F-468D83E0D703@math.uoregon.edu>
 <CF87AA20.1E629%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <030881F7-CA48-4044-B429-3E20F2FDD770@math.uoregon.edu>
 <3A9F7B93-2075-4F25-8985-4C53F4575CEF@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <CF87BC11.1E649%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>

Yes, correct, sorry for the unclear explanations.

As for my reasons, just mild convenience. If I have, say, five files I
work on in a couple of spaces, and must reboot, then it?s very fast to
close the five previews that open in the wrong place (cmd-W 5 times),
somewhat less so to redistribute the five preview windows (though clearly
possible). The easiest solution is to recompile when I get to work with a
particular one of the 5 tex files; in addition, since I may have to search
for a given spot anyway, though, well, you see where I am going. Another
issue was that I may want not to change the timestamp on the pdf file, but
if the source hasn?t changed since the last compilation, or the pdf file
does not change at all, it?s possible that that wouldn?t happen anyway (I
am not sure).

Anyway, if you do fix the replacement of all windows after rebooting, then
my particular issues will go away. I fully agree it?s low priority, even
for me.

Nicolae


On 5/1/14, 8:18, "Richard Koch" <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

>Nicolae,
>
>Aha. Perhaps after all I understand what you are doing. Let's see.
>
>You open TeXShop, and the two windows open, but the Preview window
>opens in the wrong spot. I can confirm this. It will be easy to fix, and
>a fix
>should be in the next TeXShop. But that may not be for a while.
>
>Then you close the Preview window. (I don't understand why you don't
>just move it, but let that be.)
>
>Then you use forward search, hoping that the search will open the preview
>window automatically. Instead it opens a blank window. You then typeset,
>and the
>blank window is filled with the correct material. I can confirm this
>behavior.
>
>The behavior doesn't surprise me, since I never imagined that someone
>would
>want to search from source to a preview window not yet open. I'll put
>this on the
>"to be fixed" list, but it has very low priority.
>
>Why don't you just move the preview window to the correct spot and search?
>Why close it?
>
>Dick Koch



From bowenalan03 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 18:37:32 2014
From: bowenalan03 at gmail.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 12:37:32 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <64D5F444-0DAA-4154-BC7E-70A8E3AD3025@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <BBC79F0F-DCDA-4C7C-B445-DE260D3D670B@wideopenwest.com>
 <CAFMOkGV0HnFJNtNi1_4uUT6GGCHjxr335U4yA90enT+5grb50w@mail.gmail.com>
 <64D5F444-0DAA-4154-BC7E-70A8E3AD3025@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <CAFMOkGUYYWksZKGvOuN8oxgcL7Pdzd8nj3garFwCsMdyJbiMkA@mail.gmail.com>

Herb?

Why not indeed! I have made the change?huge thanks to you!?and will test
for a while to see if the problem occurs.

Alan


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>wrote:

>
> On May 1, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Alan Bowen <bowenalan03 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Herb?
> >
> > I will experiment further. But right now I should say that I am
> typesetting a project in ConTeXt that has several components. That means
> that I spend most of the time working on a number of components files and
> typeset by selecting the project .pdf file by typing Command-T.
> >
>
> Howdy,
>
> Is there a reason you have to select the project file to typeset? Place
> the line
>
> % !TEX root=path/to/project.tex
>
> at the top of each of the component files. Then Typesetting with the one
> of the project files active will automatically typeset the project file.
> Here path/to.project.tex is the absolute or relative path from the
> component file to the project file; e.g., if book.tex, the project file, is
> in some directory and chapter1.tex, a component file is in a sub-directory,
> chapters, of that directory place the line
>
> % !TEX root=../book.tex
>
> at the top of the chapter1.tex file.
>
> > More soon?this behavior usually occurs when I am thinking of something
> else!
> >
> > Alan
> >
>
> Isn't that always the case!? :-)
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Thu May  1 19:27:43 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 12:27:43 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <64D5F444-0DAA-4154-BC7E-70A8E3AD3025@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <BBC79F0F-DCDA-4C7C-B445-DE260D3D670B@wideopenwest.com>
 <CAFMOkGV0HnFJNtNi1_4uUT6GGCHjxr335U4yA90enT+5grb50w@mail.gmail.com>
 <64D5F444-0DAA-4154-BC7E-70A8E3AD3025@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <482462A0-153D-4554-845D-CB976C109E9C@wideopenwest.com>


On May 1, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> % !TEX root=path/to/project.tex
> 

Howdy,

Sorry, there should be a space on either side of the = sign:

% !TEX root = path/to/project.tex

or it won't work.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From gerard at ou.edu  Thu May  1 21:48:59 2014
From: gerard at ou.edu (Walschap, Gerard)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 19:48:59 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] minor issue with texshop 3.35
Message-ID: <C36059DA-F941-44B0-BF5A-8E332DC1B0F1@ou.edu>

	When I open a document in TeXShop 3.35, the preview window looks like a collection of garbage---broken images--- for a short period of time. The period of time depends on the length of the document. For a short document, it disappears in a blink. In a 400 page book, it lasts about a second before reverting to what it should be.

	Apologies if someone else has already reported this.

	-Gerard



From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Thu May  1 22:03:02 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 15:03:02 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] minor issue with texshop 3.35
In-Reply-To: <C36059DA-F941-44B0-BF5A-8E332DC1B0F1@ou.edu>
References: <C36059DA-F941-44B0-BF5A-8E332DC1B0F1@ou.edu>
Message-ID: <200F172E-8A89-4F6E-BD78-AD5A58DDD33A@wideopenwest.com>


On May 1, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Walschap, Gerard <gerard at ou.edu> wrote:

> 	When I open a document in TeXShop 3.35, the preview window looks like a collection of garbage---broken images--- for a short period of time. The period of time depends on the length of the document. For a short document, it disappears in a blink. In a 400 page book, it lasts about a second before reverting to what it should be.
> 
> 	Apologies if someone else has already reported this.
> 
> 	-Gerard

Howdy,

I just typeset a 500 page book, quit TeXShop and then opened the source file in TeXShop. The pdf came up immediately in a preview window.

What OS version are you using? I'm using OS X 10.9.2.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Thu May  1 22:39:57 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 13:39:57 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] minor issue with texshop 3.35
In-Reply-To: <C36059DA-F941-44B0-BF5A-8E332DC1B0F1@ou.edu>
References: <C36059DA-F941-44B0-BF5A-8E332DC1B0F1@ou.edu>
Message-ID: <92592406-784C-4F51-8FF5-289BBCB06917@math.uoregon.edu>

Gerard,

I predict that you are not using Mavericks. This phenomenon is immediately
noticeable on Lion and Mountain Lion, but not on Mavericks. I intended to remark
on that in the ?About the Changes? document, but forgot.

Dick Koch

On May 1, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Walschap, Gerard <gerard at ou.edu> wrote:

> 	When I open a document in TeXShop 3.35, the preview window looks like a collection of garbage---broken images--- for a short period of time. The period of time depends on the length of the document. For a short document, it disappears in a blink. In a 400 page book, it lasts about a second before reverting to what it should be.
> 
> 	Apologies if someone else has already reported this.
> 
> 	-Gerard
> 
> 
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From bowenalan03 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 23:01:24 2014
From: bowenalan03 at gmail.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 17:01:24 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <482462A0-153D-4554-845D-CB976C109E9C@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <BBC79F0F-DCDA-4C7C-B445-DE260D3D670B@wideopenwest.com>
 <CAFMOkGV0HnFJNtNi1_4uUT6GGCHjxr335U4yA90enT+5grb50w@mail.gmail.com>
 <64D5F444-0DAA-4154-BC7E-70A8E3AD3025@wideopenwest.com>
 <482462A0-153D-4554-845D-CB976C109E9C@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <CAFMOkGUBnQRThdPZwV1KdVnwmA-cnGE5yt0QCS9+uSW7h6oQCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Herb?That?s got it.

Alan


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>wrote:

>
> On May 1, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > % !TEX root=path/to/project.tex
> >
>
> Howdy,
>
> Sorry, there should be a space on either side of the = sign:
>
> % !TEX root = path/to/project.tex
>
> or it won't work.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
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From lowimc at yahoo.com  Fri May  2 05:12:33 2014
From: lowimc at yahoo.com (CR)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 20:12:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [OS X TeX] Moving the chapter title and number to the center of the
	page
Message-ID: <1399000353.12256.YahooMailNeo@web140002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I am using \appendix in the memoir class to attach a series of papers in pdf format at the end of a technical report and would like the chapter title and number to be in the center of the page both horizontally and vertically.  What I have below gives me what I am looking for except the title and number are in the header.  Is there a way to move it down to the middle vertically and have only the chapter number and title on that page? The way I am doing it below works well with my TOC and footer.

\appendix

\renewcommand{\chapnumfont}{\normalfont\large\scshape\center}?

\renewcommand{\chaptitlefont}{\chapnumfont}
\chapter{Cylinder Papers}
\includepdf[pages=-,scale=.85,pagecommand={}]{cyl1.pdf}

...and so on for several papers

Thank you,

Chad



From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Fri May  2 16:45:09 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 09:45:09 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
Message-ID: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>

Howdy,

MacTeXtras contains many applications that front-end the TeX Live distribution installed by the MacTeX install package. It supports OS X 10.5 (Leopard) and later although not all supplied applications support some of the older systems. MacTeXtras.zip is presently ~590MB in size so it's a sizable download and we have to be careful about adding/deleting applications supplied there.

TeXworks will no longer be installed by MacTeX-2014 to attempt to save space in that package. Note that at this time MacTeXtras doesn't include TeXworks, which has a few major missing features (e.g., it can't Print the pdf or source files) as of the present version 0.4.5 (r.1280). I need votes for/against adding TeXworks to MacTeX. The .dmg file is about 20MB in size. I assume this will run Under OS X 10.6 and later but it may be 10.7 and later.

TeXStudio is an up and coming front end originally based on TeXmaker. There have been some comments on the list from users of this application. It will run under OS X 10.6 and later and it's dmg file is ~44MB in size. Is it worth adding this to MacTeXtras?

There presently are four versions of TeXmaker supplied in MacTeXtras: an older version, 1.9.9, for OS X 10.5 (PPC) and three copies of the latest version for OS X 10.5 (Intel), OS X 10.6 and OS X 10.7 and later. Should the (PPC) or both the (PPC) and (Intel) versions for OS X 10.5 be removed to add space for either or both of TeXworks and TeXStudio? The (PPC) version is about ~17MB in size while the (Intel) version is ~43MB. Links to the web site for obtaining these would remain but this would also violate the fullest support for OS X 10.5.

I really need and appreciate input to help make the decision.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From schneeschmelze at googlemail.com  Fri May  2 21:29:10 2014
From: schneeschmelze at googlemail.com (Juergen Fenn)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:29:10 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <CANDFe-xT1CML_m2RmM=Hv3f-wS2axROAS-qyGfXKLUZ8zFcx7g@mail.gmail.com>

2014-05-02 16:45 GMT+02:00 Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>:

> I really need and appreciate input to help make the decision.

Dear Herb,

what comes to my mind is whether we need MacTeXtras at all?  You are
right in saying that these are really huge amounts of data. I suggest
to give up MacTeXtras and to replace it with an option in TeX Live
Utility to install those programmes on demand so that everyone can
decide by himself whether he wants to have them on his system. I have
never used MacTeXtras because I have installed most of these
programmes separately anyway.

Apart from that, still running OS X 10.6.6 for while I would
appreciate if you carry on supporting 10.5 and 10.6.

Regards,
J?rgen.


From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Fri May  2 21:39:54 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 14:39:54 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <CANDFe-xT1CML_m2RmM=Hv3f-wS2axROAS-qyGfXKLUZ8zFcx7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <CANDFe-xT1CML_m2RmM=Hv3f-wS2axROAS-qyGfXKLUZ8zFcx7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AFF9C669-1C0B-4057-9954-2FF40802767B@wideopenwest.com>


On May 2, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Juergen Fenn <schneeschmelze at googlemail.com> wrote:

> 2014-05-02 16:45 GMT+02:00 Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>:
> 
>> I really need and appreciate input to help make the decision.
> 
> Dear Herb,
> 
> what comes to my mind is whether we need MacTeXtras at all?  You are
> right in saying that these are really huge amounts of data. I suggest
> to give up MacTeXtras and to replace it with an option in TeX Live
> Utility to install those programmes on demand so that everyone can
> decide by himself whether he wants to have them on his system. I have
> never used MacTeXtras because I have installed most of these
> programmes separately anyway.
> 
> Apart from that, still running OS X 10.6.6 for while I would
> appreciate if you carry on supporting 10.5 and 10.6.
> 
> Regards,
> J?rgen.

Howdy,

TeX Live Utility is specifically designed to be a front end for configuring and updating TeX Live. That's it!

It will NEVER have anything to do with other GUI applications or configuring the things that have to do specifically with the Mac side of the configuration (e.g. what the TeX Distribution Preference Pane is supposed to do).

There are many folks that don't even know about the existence of things that they can get that deal with the TeX Live distribution installed by MacTeX.

Finally, there is nothing that forces anyone to download MacTeXtras unles they are already curious about those things.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From tmatsoukas at icloud.com  Fri May  2 22:05:01 2014
From: tmatsoukas at icloud.com (Themis Matsoukas)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 16:05:01 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Moving the chapter title and number to the center of
 the page
In-Reply-To: <1399000353.12256.YahooMailNeo@web140002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1399000353.12256.YahooMailNeo@web140002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1A4EE580-72BA-4FC4-B5E0-424221DDCDEF@icloud.com>

This should work:

\appendix

\renewcommand{\chapnumfont}{\normalfont\large\scshape\center} 

\renewcommand{\chaptitlefont}{\chapnumfont}

\clearpage
~
\vfill
\chapter{Cylinder Papers}
\vfill

Themis


> \includepdf[pages=-,scale=.85,pagecommand={}]{cyl1.pdf}
On May 1, 2014, at 11:12 PM, CR <lowimc at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am using \appendix in the memoir class to attach a series of papers in pdf format at the end of a technical report and would like the chapter title and number to be in the center of the page both horizontally and vertically.  What I have below gives me what I am looking for except the title and number are in the header.  Is there a way to move it down to the middle vertically and have only the chapter number and title on that page? The way I am doing it below works well with my TOC and footer.
> 
> \appendix
> 
> \renewcommand{\chapnumfont}{\normalfont\large\scshape\center} 
> 
> \renewcommand{\chaptitlefont}{\chapnumfont}
> \chapter{Cylinder Papers}
> \includepdf[pages=-,scale=.85,pagecommand={}]{cyl1.pdf}
> 
> ...and so on for several papers
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Chad
> 
> 
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From tmatsoukas at icloud.com  Fri May  2 22:08:51 2014
From: tmatsoukas at icloud.com (Themis Matsoukas)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 16:08:51 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <7C8A5715-733B-49C2-867B-A5977C059F25@icloud.com>

On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

>  I need votes for/against adding TeXworks to MacTeX.

I don?t use TeXworks ? although I suppose you?d mostly want to hear from those who do?

Themis



From joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk  Fri May  2 22:42:53 2014
From: joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk (Joseph Wright)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 21:42:53 +0100
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>

On 02/05/2014 15:45, Herbert Schulz wrote:
> TeXworks will no longer be installed by MacTeX-2014 to attempt to save space in that package. Note that at this time MacTeXtras doesn't include TeXworks, which has a few major missing features (e.g., it can't Print the pdf or source files) as of the present version 0.4.5 (r.1280). I need votes for/against adding TeXworks to MacTeX.

I'd strongly urge it be retained: it's currently available for
Win/Mac/Linux and installed as standard for both Win (MiKTeX/TL). That
makes it a good 'default' for teaching/introducing (La)TeX to new users
without getting into platform dependencies.

As an example, for the UK-TUG 'Beginners LaTeX' sessions we use TeXworks
for all of our demos as they then look the same for all of our
attendees: we always have some Mac users in addition to the Win
majority. We also stress that this is only one of many editors!

(Disclaimer: I use TeXworks routinely both on Mac and Windows.)
--
Joseph Wright


From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May  3 00:27:43 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 17:27:43 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>


On May 2, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Joseph Wright <joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:

> On 02/05/2014 15:45, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>> TeXworks will no longer be installed by MacTeX-2014 to attempt to save space in that package. Note that at this time MacTeXtras doesn't include TeXworks, which has a few major missing features (e.g., it can't Print the pdf or source files) as of the present version 0.4.5 (r.1280). I need votes for/against adding TeXworks to MacTeX.
> 
> I'd strongly urge it be retained: it's currently available for
> Win/Mac/Linux and installed as standard for both Win (MiKTeX/TL). That
> makes it a good 'default' for teaching/introducing (La)TeX to new users
> without getting into platform dependencies.
> 
> As an example, for the UK-TUG 'Beginners LaTeX' sessions we use TeXworks
> for all of our demos as they then look the same for all of our
> attendees: we always have some Mac users in addition to the Win
> majority. We also stress that this is only one of many editors!
> 
> (Disclaimer: I use TeXworks routinely both on Mac and Windows.)
> --
> Joseph Wright

Howdy,

I have a bit of a typo in the last sentence of mine above. It should read: I need votes for/against adding TeXworks to MacTeXtras (NOT MacTeX --- it won't be there). You can always download TeXworks directly from <https://www.tug.org/texworks/>.

Does TeXShop look or behave that much different than TeXworks on the Mac? After all, TeXShop was the original inspiration for TeXworks. I'd guess that an introductory course wouldn't use any of the features of TeXworks that aren't the same or very similar to the ones in TeXShop.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk  Sat May  3 02:48:10 2014
From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 08:48:10 +0800
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <6D1E47AC-2F62-480F-A3E2-41E177750E8B@cs.cardiff.ac.uk>

Can I suggest that MacTeX Extras be done differently? 

Once you have the programs you want from it, it does not make sense to download it again - all you want to do is keep the programs you are interested in up-to-date. On the other hand, if something is added to it, you may wish to now.

I'd suggest a much better way for MacTeX Extras to be done is as a list of links to where software can be obtained, with a short description of what each one is and why relevant to TeXing. Users can then click on those links as desired to fetch the actual files.

That way, nobody downloads stuff they don't need.

Best wishes

Ralph
--
Prof. Ralph Martin                     Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536
Computer Science & Informatics         Fax:   +44(0)29 2087 4598
Cardiff University               Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk
5 The Parade, Roath              WWW:  http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/
Cardiff, CF24 3AA, UK         VOIP: sip:ralphmartin at sip2sip.info



From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May  3 03:19:55 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 20:19:55 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <6D1E47AC-2F62-480F-A3E2-41E177750E8B@cs.cardiff.ac.uk>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>
 <6D1E47AC-2F62-480F-A3E2-41E177750E8B@cs.cardiff.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <BA3DA146-508E-4704-B43B-6479D4E7F48F@wideopenwest.com>


On May 2, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Ralph Martin <Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk> wrote:

> Can I suggest that MacTeX Extras be done differently? 
> 
> Once you have the programs you want from it, it does not make sense to download it again - all you want to do is keep the programs you are interested in up-to-date. On the other hand, if something is added to it, you may wish to now.
> 
> I'd suggest a much better way for MacTeX Extras to be done is as a list of links to where software can be obtained, with a short description of what each one is and why relevant to TeXing. Users can then click on those links as desired to fetch the actual files.
> 
> That way, nobody downloads stuff they don't need.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Ralph

Howdy,

For individuals that would work fine. As a matter of fact there is a document the Extras folder of MacTeXtras that has links for all of the software.

The main reason to gather it all together in one place is that it would certainly be handy for many institutions that distribute software to their students, etc. It is all in one place. The fact that I update it during the year isn't really important since many of the pieces of software can tell you if there is an update. I do the ``continuous'' update since it's easier for me to do that than wait till the end of the year and do it all at once.

PS: you can get the document with the links by clicking on the last word in the Extras part of <http://www.tug.org/mactex/mactextras.html>. That does get updated during the year.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Sat May  3 04:17:36 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 22:17:36 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <63837CD3-17FF-4073-9342-8E40A10B3081@gmail.com>


On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote:

> I need votes for/against adding TeXworks to MacTeX. The .dmg file is  
> about 20MB in size. I assume this will run Under OS X 10.6 and later  
> but it may be 10.7 and later.


I am not about to change from TeXShop so, selfishly, I vote against  
all other front ends.

> Should the (PPC) or both the (PPC) and (Intel) versions for OS X  
> 10.5 be removed to add space for either or both of TeXworks and  
> TeXStudio? The (PPC) version is about ~17MB in size while the  
> (Intel) version is ~43MB. Links to the web site for obtaining these  
> would remain but this would also violate the fullest support for OS  
> X 10.5.

Still on a PPC under 10.5.8 and therefore still with TeXShop 2.47.  
This is not likely to change in the foreseeable future. And when it  
changes, that is when either I or the PPC conks out ....

So, I would say that I do not need any "full support".


Regards
--schremmer


From alan at alphabyte.co.nz  Sat May  3 04:44:39 2014
From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan Litchfield)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 14:44:39 +1200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <63837CD3-17FF-4073-9342-8E40A10B3081@gmail.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <63837CD3-17FF-4073-9342-8E40A10B3081@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53645817.4040902@alphabyte.co.nz>



On 3/05/14 2:17 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
>
> On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>
>> I need votes for/against adding TeXworks to MacTeX. The .dmg file is
>> about 20MB in size. I assume this will run Under OS X 10.6 and later
>> but it may be 10.7 and later.
>
>
> I am not about to change from TeXShop so, selfishly, I vote against all
> other front ends.

TeXShop suits me fine too.

>
>> Should the (PPC) or both the (PPC) and (Intel) versions for OS X 10.5
>> be removed to add space for either or both of TeXworks and TeXStudio?
>> The (PPC) version is about ~17MB in size while the (Intel) version is
>> ~43MB. Links to the web site for obtaining these would remain but this
>> would also violate the fullest support for OS X 10.5.
>
> Still on a PPC under 10.5.8 and therefore still with TeXShop 2.47. This
> is not likely to change in the foreseeable future. And when it changes,
> that is when either I or the PPC conks out ....
>
> So, I would say that I do not need any "full support".

On one of my machines, I am in the same position.

Alan

-- 
Dr Alan Litchfield
AlphaByte
PO Box 1941
Auckland, New Zealand 1140


From joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk  Sat May  3 08:36:19 2014
From: joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk (Joseph Wright)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 07:36:19 +0100
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <53648E63.2090401@morningstar2.co.uk>

On 02/05/2014 23:27, Herbert Schulz wrote:
> I have a bit of a typo in the last sentence of mine above. It should read: I need votes for/against adding TeXworks to MacTeXtras (NOT MacTeX --- it won't be there). You can always download TeXworks directly from <https://www.tug.org/texworks/>.

Does MacTeXextras get auto-installed along with MacTeX in the DVD
version? That's where the main issue is: what we like with the current
set up is that we can send out the DVD and if people follow the
auto-installs everyone with a Mac or Windows is set up. (Linux users are
a bit more tricky but we can live with that.)

> Does TeXShop look or behave that much different than TeXworks on the Mac? After all, TeXShop was the original inspiration for TeXworks. I'd guess that an introductory course wouldn't use any of the features of TeXworks that aren't the same or very similar to the ones in TeXShop.

It's not identical, that's the problem. With TeXworks what we get is
that the only platform-specific thing is Cmd versus Ctrl for the
keyboard shortcuts.

Aside: Is seems a great shame that after TUG supported TeXworks
development as a cross-platform TeX editor we now find ourselves going
'backward' in terms of out-of-the-box cross-platform working.
--
Joseph Wright


From vivrii at gmail.com  Sat May  3 09:28:57 2014
From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 03:28:57 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <53648E63.2090401@morningstar2.co.uk>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>
 <53648E63.2090401@morningstar2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CADP=ZZpbw2=LJWvRtf-pk-Jhon53wTD4LJc+5CF3dau=w0Z+9A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Joseph Wright <
joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> > Does TeXShop look or behave that much different than TeXworks on the
> Mac? After all, TeXShop was the original inspiration for TeXworks. I'd
> guess that an introductory course wouldn't use any of the features of
> TeXworks that aren't the same or very similar to the ones in TeXShop.
>
>

There is one more difference: TS viewer is Apple PDFkit based and TW viewer
is poppler based. For embedded non-ASCII URLs both are buggy (but the
former is worse). Adobe Reader/Acrobat handle them well

I reported several months ago these bugs to both Apple and poppler teams



Victor Ivrii
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May  3 15:07:16 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 08:07:16 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <CADP=ZZpbw2=LJWvRtf-pk-Jhon53wTD4LJc+5CF3dau=w0Z+9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <530E1232-B3D7-4F2C-963E-938FE0746B6A@wideopenwest.com>


On May 3, 2014, at 2:28 AM, Victor Ivrii <vivrii at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Joseph Wright <joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Does TeXShop look or behave that much different than TeXworks on the Mac? After all, TeXShop was the original inspiration for TeXworks. I'd guess that an introductory course wouldn't use any of the features of TeXworks that aren't the same or very similar to the ones in TeXShop.
> 

Howdy,

On the DVD the mactex folder that encloses the MacTeX-Install folder is, except for a few differences, what is posted separately on the net as MacTeXtras.

> 
> There is one more difference: TS viewer is Apple PDFkit based and TW viewer is poppler based. For embedded non-ASCII URLs both are buggy (but the former is worse). Adobe Reader/Acrobat handle them well
> 
> I reported several months ago these bugs to both Apple and poppler teams
> 
>  
> 
> Victor Ivrii

But PDFKit seems to get bugs fixed while TeXworks for the Mac hasn't been updated for at least a year so the built-in poppler library is old and it doesn't appear that a new build is coming for the Mac this year.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From kfjelsted at gmail.com  Sat May  3 15:34:37 2014
From: kfjelsted at gmail.com (Kevin Fjelsted)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 08:34:37 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <530E1232-B3D7-4F2C-963E-938FE0746B6A@wideopenwest.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>
 <53648E63.2090401@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <CADP=ZZpbw2=LJWvRtf-pk-Jhon53wTD4LJc+5CF3dau=w0Z+9A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <569D9950-C3E2-48E9-90C7-6B56F9AFE6A3@gmail.com>

I use VoiceOver which is the built-in accessibility function as my screenreader on the Mac.
TeXShop is very accessible through VoiceOver. However, TeXworks appears to be violating all the APple development standards and skipping around Coco and perhaps the other libraries. Hence it is totally unusable from an accessibility standpoint.

-Kevin

On May 3, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 3, 2014, at 2:28 AM, Victor Ivrii <vivrii at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Joseph Wright <joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Does TeXShop look or behave that much different than TeXworks on the Mac? After all, TeXShop was the original inspiration for TeXworks. I'd guess that an introductory course wouldn't use any of the features of TeXworks that aren't the same or very similar to the ones in TeXShop.
>> 
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> On the DVD the mactex folder that encloses the MacTeX-Install folder is, except for a few differences, what is posted separately on the net as MacTeXtras.
> 
>> 
>> There is one more difference: TS viewer is Apple PDFkit based and TW viewer is poppler based. For embedded non-ASCII URLs both are buggy (but the former is worse). Adobe Reader/Acrobat handle them well
>> 
>> I reported several months ago these bugs to both Apple and poppler teams
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Victor Ivrii
> 
> But PDFKit seems to get bugs fixed while TeXworks for the Mac hasn't been updated for at least a year so the built-in poppler library is old and it doesn't appear that a new build is coming for the Mac this year.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> 
> 
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May  3 15:41:01 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 08:41:01 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <569D9950-C3E2-48E9-90C7-6B56F9AFE6A3@gmail.com>
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 <53648E63.2090401@morningstar2.co.uk>
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On May 3, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Kevin Fjelsted <kfjelsted at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use VoiceOver which is the built-in accessibility function as my screenreader on the Mac.
> TeXShop is very accessible through VoiceOver. However, TeXworks appears to be violating all the APple development standards and skipping around Coco and perhaps the other libraries. Hence it is totally unusable from an accessibility standpoint.
> 
> -Kevin

Howdy,

Since TeXworks is a cross platform application it can only take advantage of the functionality programmed into the cross platform frameworks it uses. That will invariably mean there are things that aren't supported.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk  Sat May  3 20:45:32 2014
From: joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk (Joseph Wright)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 19:45:32 +0100
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <530E1232-B3D7-4F2C-963E-938FE0746B6A@wideopenwest.com>
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 <53648E63.2090401@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <CADP=ZZpbw2=LJWvRtf-pk-Jhon53wTD4LJc+5CF3dau=w0Z+9A@mail.gmail.com>
 <530E1232-B3D7-4F2C-963E-938FE0746B6A@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <5365394C.9070604@morningstar2.co.uk>

On 03/05/2014 14:07, Herbert Schulz wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> On the DVD the mactex folder that encloses the MacTeX-Install folder is, except for a few differences, what is posted separately on the net as MacTeXtras.

Ah, cool. In that case I guess I don't have to worry too much, provided
TeXworks remains in the 'extras'.
--
Joseph Wright


From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May  3 21:00:32 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 14:00:32 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <5365394C.9070604@morningstar2.co.uk>
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 <53648E63.2090401@morningstar2.co.uk>
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On May 3, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Joseph Wright <joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:

> On 03/05/2014 14:07, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> On the DVD the mactex folder that encloses the MacTeX-Install folder is, except for a few differences, what is posted separately on the net as MacTeXtras.
> 
> Ah, cool. In that case I guess I don't have to worry too much, provided
> TeXworks remains in the 'extras'.
> --
> Joseph Wright

Howdy,

And that ,exactly, is the question! At this time TeXworks is NOT in the Extras folder. The question is whether I should add it to that folder, and therefore to MacTeXtras, since it will no longer be installed by the MacTeX installer.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From tmatsoukas at icloud.com  Sun May  4 15:35:18 2014
From: tmatsoukas at icloud.com (Themis Matsoukas)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 09:35:18 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Moving the chapter title and number to the center of
 the page
In-Reply-To: <1A4EE580-72BA-4FC4-B5E0-424221DDCDEF@icloud.com>
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Chad,

I see, my fix works in ?article? but not in ?book?. I am attaching a minimal example using article. Not sure how to make it work with book. 

Themis


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On May 2, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Themis Matsoukas <tmatsoukas at icloud.com> wrote:

> This should work:
> 
> \appendix
> 
> \renewcommand{\chapnumfont}{\normalfont\large\scshape\center} 
> 
> \renewcommand{\chaptitlefont}{\chapnumfont}
> 
> \clearpage
> ~
> \vfill
> \chapter{Cylinder Papers}
> \vfill
> 
> Themis
> 
> 
>> \includepdf[pages=-,scale=.85,pagecommand={}]{cyl1.pdf}
> On May 1, 2014, at 11:12 PM, CR <lowimc at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am using \appendix in the memoir class to attach a series of papers in pdf format at the end of a technical report and would like the chapter title and number to be in the center of the page both horizontally and vertically.  What I have below gives me what I am looking for except the title and number are in the header.  Is there a way to move it down to the middle vertically and have only the chapter number and title on that page? The way I am doing it below works well with my TOC and footer.
>> 
>> \appendix
>> 
>> \renewcommand{\chapnumfont}{\normalfont\large\scshape\center} 
>> 
>> \renewcommand{\chaptitlefont}{\chapnumfont}
>> \chapter{Cylinder Papers}
>> \includepdf[pages=-,scale=.85,pagecommand={}]{cyl1.pdf}
>> 
>> ...and so on for several papers
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Chad
>> 
>> 
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From joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk  Sun May  4 20:40:01 2014
From: joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk (Joseph Wright)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 19:40:01 +0100
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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On 03/05/2014 20:00, Herbert Schulz wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> And that ,exactly, is the question! At this time TeXworks is NOT in the Extras folder. The question is whether I should add it to that folder, and therefore to MacTeXtras, since it will no longer be installed by the MacTeX installer.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz

Based on the other part of the question (Texmaker/TeXstudio), it seems
that MacTeXtras will continue to contain one or more editors. Given
that, it would seem odd to me to drop TeXworks entirely in 'one step'
rather than giving it least one 'intermediate' year in MacTeXtras.
--
Joseph Wright


From amunn at gmx.com  Sun May  4 20:56:22 2014
From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 14:56:22 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <53668981.2090403@morningstar2.co.uk>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <5364034D.2080002@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <B88E2D22-AB38-4882-9203-474654557D51@wideopenwest.com>
 <53648E63.2090401@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <CADP=ZZpbw2=LJWvRtf-pk-Jhon53wTD4LJc+5CF3dau=w0Z+9A@mail.gmail.com>
 <530E1232-B3D7-4F2C-963E-938FE0746B6A@wideopenwest.com>
 <5365394C.9070604@morningstar2.co.uk>
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 <53668981.2090403@morningstar2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <E6370123-CDD7-4801-BEDD-3947021E9A8D@gmx.com>

I?m in favor of keeping TeXWorks as part of MacTeXtras for all the reasons Joseph outlined. I think the users on this list are a bit biased towards TeXShop, but for those who deal with people on various platforms at the same time, having simple access to a cross-platform IDE is a real plus.

Alan

On May 4, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Joseph Wright <joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:

> On 03/05/2014 20:00, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> And that ,exactly, is the question! At this time TeXworks is NOT in the Extras folder. The question is whether I should add it to that folder, and therefore to MacTeXtras, since it will no longer be installed by the MacTeX installer.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
> 
> Based on the other part of the question (Texmaker/TeXstudio), it seems
> that MacTeXtras will continue to contain one or more editors. Given
> that, it would seem odd to me to drop TeXworks entirely in 'one step'
> rather than giving it least one 'intermediate' year in MacTeXtras.
> --
> Joseph Wright
> 
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From joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk  Sun May  4 21:01:28 2014
From: joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk (Joseph Wright)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 20:01:28 +0100
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>

On 02/05/2014 15:45, Herbert Schulz wrote:
> TeXStudio is an up and coming front end originally based on TeXmaker. There have been some comments on the list from users of this application. It will run under OS X 10.6 and later and it's dmg file is ~44MB in size. Is it worth adding this to MacTeXtras?
> 
> There presently are four versions of TeXmaker supplied in MacTeXtras: an older version, 1.9.9, for OS X 10.5 (PPC) and three copies of the latest version for OS X 10.5 (Intel), OS X 10.6 and OS X 10.7 and later. Should the (PPC) or both the (PPC) and (Intel) versions for OS X 10.5 be removed to add space for either or both of TeXworks and TeXStudio? The (PPC) version is about ~17MB in size while the (Intel) version is ~43MB. Links to the web site for obtaining these would remain but this would also violate the fullest support for OS X 10.5.

Others have made the case for retaining 10.5 support, although I wonder
if this is covered by TeXShop (presumably still in the core of MacTeX).
I do wonder about versions here: from what you say, 10.5 users are not
getting the latest version of Texmaker.

As you say, TeXstudio is originally a fork of Texmaker, though the two
have diverged somewhat. Assuming Texmaker is needed for the PPC/10.5
support, is adding TeXstudio as well sensible?
-- 
Joseph Wright


From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sun May  4 21:16:00 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 14:16:00 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <53668981.2090403@morningstar2.co.uk>
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On May 4, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Joseph Wright <joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:

> On 03/05/2014 20:00, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> And that ,exactly, is the question! At this time TeXworks is NOT in the Extras folder. The question is whether I should add it to that folder, and therefore to MacTeXtras, since it will no longer be installed by the MacTeX installer.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
> 
> Based on the other part of the question (Texmaker/TeXstudio), it seems
> that MacTeXtras will continue to contain one or more editors. Given
> that, it would seem odd to me to drop TeXworks entirely in 'one step'
> rather than giving it least one 'intermediate' year in MacTeXtras.
> --
> Joseph Wright

Howdy,

As I said, TeXworks used to be installed by the MacTeX package but will not be for MacTeX-2014. It sounds as though I should therefore include it in MacTeXtras (and it will be in the mactex/Extras folder on the DVD).

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sun May  4 21:22:07 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 14:22:07 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FCFF2B46-EE32-4345-AB88-039CAA41A387@wideopenwest.com>


On May 4, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Joseph Wright <joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:

> On 02/05/2014 15:45, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>> TeXStudio is an up and coming front end originally based on TeXmaker. There have been some comments on the list from users of this application. It will run under OS X 10.6 and later and it's dmg file is ~44MB in size. Is it worth adding this to MacTeXtras?
>> 
>> There presently are four versions of TeXmaker supplied in MacTeXtras: an older version, 1.9.9, for OS X 10.5 (PPC) and three copies of the latest version for OS X 10.5 (Intel), OS X 10.6 and OS X 10.7 and later. Should the (PPC) or both the (PPC) and (Intel) versions for OS X 10.5 be removed to add space for either or both of TeXworks and TeXStudio? The (PPC) version is about ~17MB in size while the (Intel) version is ~43MB. Links to the web site for obtaining these would remain but this would also violate the fullest support for OS X 10.5.
> 
> Others have made the case for retaining 10.5 support, although I wonder
> if this is covered by TeXShop (presumably still in the core of MacTeX).
> I do wonder about versions here: from what you say, 10.5 users are not
> getting the latest version of Texmaker.
> 
> As you say, TeXstudio is originally a fork of Texmaker, though the two
> have diverged somewhat. Assuming Texmaker is needed for the PPC/10.5
> support, is adding TeXstudio as well sensible?
> -- 
> Joseph Wright

Howdy,

The TeXmaker folks stopped making a PPC compatible version after version 1.9.9 came out. They continue to make the latest version as a 32bit Intel version for 10.5, a 64bit Intel version for 10.6 and a 64bit Intel version for 10.7 and later. I really don't like the idea of carrying four versions in MacTeXtras but, at this time, we do want to support 10.5 as best we can.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Sun May  4 21:29:31 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:29:31 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <04D312FB-4062-49D1-A850-BE56DDEC358F@math.uoregon.edu>

Folks,

I have no opinion about the contents of MacTeXtras, but let me clarify the
following:

MacTeX contains multiple copies of the various GUI apps it supplies, and
ultimately installs the appropriate copy for the operating system in question.
Last year the GUI portion of MacTeX contained two copies
of TeXShop and three copies of TeXworks. That is one reason I removed
TeXworks this year.

The TUG DVD is essentially full. Everyone involved is under 
pressure to keep their portion small since TeX Live
expands year by year. The pressure has been completely benign, but it isn't fun
to watch other people sweat. Adding a second DVD would be
prohibitively expensive unless one of you makes a big TUG
contribution. 

Dick Koch





From joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk  Sun May  4 21:40:39 2014
From: joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk (Joseph Wright)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 20:40:39 +0100
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <04D312FB-4062-49D1-A850-BE56DDEC358F@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <04D312FB-4062-49D1-A850-BE56DDEC358F@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <536697B7.5040708@morningstar2.co.uk>

[Reordering slightly]

On 04/05/2014 20:29, Richard Koch wrote:
> The TUG DVD is essentially full. Everyone involved is under 
> pressure to keep their portion small since TeX Live
> expands year by year. The pressure has been completely benign, but it isn't fun
> to watch other people sweat. Adding a second DVD would be
> prohibitively expensive unless one of you makes a big TUG
> contribution. 

All understood, of course, and not likely to get any less tricky.

> MacTeX contains multiple copies of the various GUI apps it supplies, and
> ultimately installs the appropriate copy for the operating system in question.
> Last year the GUI portion of MacTeX contained two copies
> of TeXShop and three copies of TeXworks. That is one reason I removed
> TeXworks this year.

The implication there is that adding it or indeed anything else to
MacTeXtras is not an option, as it overall defeats the purpose of the
removal from MacTeX.
--
Joseph Wright


From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Sun May  4 21:53:15 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:53:15 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <536697B7.5040708@morningstar2.co.uk>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <04D312FB-4062-49D1-A850-BE56DDEC358F@math.uoregon.edu>
 <536697B7.5040708@morningstar2.co.uk>
Message-ID: <B10CAAB7-CBAC-489F-A0AC-E77B3768FCFC@math.uoregon.edu>

Joseph,

On May 4, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Joseph Wright <joseph.wright at morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> The implication there is that adding it or indeed anything else to
> MacTeXtras is not an option, as it overall defeats the purpose of the
> removal from MacTeX.

This is too strong. The "TUG Gods" haven't created a DVD yet and
haven't asked anyone to save space in 2014. We should  

	a) Create the most desirable MacTeX and the most desirable MacTeXtras

	b) Keep in mind that in the end something may have to
		be pruned away

Dick

From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sun May  4 22:28:01 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 15:28:01 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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On May 4, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> 
> MacTeX contains multiple copies of the various GUI apps it supplies, and
> ultimately installs the appropriate copy for the operating system in question.
> Last year the GUI portion of MacTeX contained two copies
> of TeXShop and three copies of TeXworks. That is one reason I removed
> TeXworks this year.
> 

Howdy,

I forgot that I'd need to carry THREE copies of TeXworks to support OS X 10.5 and later. That really makes it out of the question to add to MacTeXtras at the moment.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Sun May  4 23:45:58 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 17:45:58 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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On May 4, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Richard Koch wrote:

> Last year the GUI portion of MacTeX contained two copies of TeXShop

I assume that one was 2.47 and the other one was the latest.

Since 2.47 is final, why at all carry it? Those who, like me, are is  
still on PPC have probably already upgraded to 2.47 and thus don't  
need it. Any one new to TeX AND still on PPC can just be directed to  
the TeXShop site. There can't be many.

Puzzled regards
--schremmer


From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Mon May  5 00:31:23 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 17:31:23 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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 <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
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On May 4, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 4, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Richard Koch wrote:
> 
>> Last year the GUI portion of MacTeX contained two copies of TeXShop
> 
> I assume that one was 2.47 and the other one was the latest.
> 
> Since 2.47 is final, why at all carry it? Those who, like me, are is still on PPC have probably already upgraded to 2.47 and thus don't need it. Any one new to TeX AND still on PPC can just be directed to the TeXShop site. There can't be many.
> 
> Puzzled regards
> --schremmer
> 

Howdy,

I guess my feeling is that if we are supporting OS X 10.5 we should support it as fully as possible.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From claus.gerhardt at uni-heidelberg.de  Mon May  5 01:16:19 2014
From: claus.gerhardt at uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 01:16:19 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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I assume that those who still work with 10.5 would also be happy to use MacTeX 2013 in the future instead of the latest version - at least I would, since the benefit they might gain seems to be negligible, if there is any.

Claus


On May 5, 2014, at 0:31, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 4, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 4, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Richard Koch wrote:
>> 
>>> Last year the GUI portion of MacTeX contained two copies of TeXShop
>> 
>> I assume that one was 2.47 and the other one was the latest.
>> 
>> Since 2.47 is final, why at all carry it? Those who, like me, are is still on PPC have probably already upgraded to 2.47 and thus don't need it. Any one new to TeX AND still on PPC can just be directed to the TeXShop site. There can't be many.
>> 
>> Puzzled regards
>> --schremmer
>> 
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> I guess my feeling is that if we are supporting OS X 10.5 we should support it as fully as possible.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> 
> 
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From gerard at ou.edu  Mon May  5 01:26:11 2014
From: gerard at ou.edu (Gerard Walschap)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 18:26:11 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] doc no longer compiling
Message-ID: <6131E0A8-9825-4447-91DD-9A9910CC11C8@ou.edu>

A document that I've been working on for years is all of a sudden no longer typesetting, and I just can't see what's wrong. When I opened TeXShop today, I was asked if I wanted to upgrade to 3.35 and I said yes (this is another machine than the one involved in a post several days ago). I then opened the root file for the document, and after typesetting got the following error:

Running 'pdflatex --shell-escape --synctex=1 --file-line-error  -recorder  "diffgeom.tex"'
------------
Latexmk: applying rule 'pdflatex'...
sh: pdflatex: command not found
Latexmk: fls file doesn't appear to have been made
Latexmk: Index file 'diffgeom.idx' was written
Latexmk: Found input bbl file 'diffgeom.bbl'
Latexmk: Log file says output to 'diffgeom.pdf'
sh: kpsewhich: command not found
sh: kpsewhich: command not found
Latexmk: Failed to find one or more bibliography files 
  diffgeo.bib
Collected error summary (may duplicate other messages):
  pdflatex: Command for 'pdflatex' gave return code 32512
Latexmk: Use the -f option to force complete processing,
 unless error was exceeding maximum runs of latex/pdflatex.
Latexmk: Errors, so I did not complete making targets

I should point out that the first line in the root file is "% !TEX TS-program = pdflatexmk". Anybody have a clue as to what's going on?

	-Gerard
 
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Mon May  5 01:28:16 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 18:28:16 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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On May 4, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Claus Gerhardt <claus.gerhardt at uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:

> I assume that those who still work with 10.5 would also be happy to use MacTeX 2013 in the future instead of the latest version - at least I would, since the benefit they might gain seems to be negligible, if there is any.
> 
> Claus

Howdy,

There was a lot of discussion before support for OS X 10.4 was dropped in MacTeX (and MacTeXtras). Once the decision was made a final version of MacTeX/TeX Live for that year was saved so that they would have a distribution to download and use.

Most often a decision like that occurs because none of the developers can compile the binaries for that version of the OS. One of these days that will happen for OS X 10.5 and we won't have a choice.

I know that there are folks on this list still using OS X 10.5 either because they are still using PPC systems (Apple Computers seem to last a very long time) or can't update to 10.6 or later for one reason or another.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Mon May  5 01:35:28 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 18:35:28 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] doc no longer compiling
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On May 4, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Gerard Walschap <gerard at ou.edu> wrote:

> A document that I've been working on for years is all of a sudden no longer typesetting, and I just can't see what's wrong. When I opened TeXShop today, I was asked if I wanted to upgrade to 3.35 and I said yes (this is another machine than the one involved in a post several days ago). I then opened the root file for the document, and after typesetting got the following error:
> 
> Running 'pdflatex --shell-escape --synctex=1 --file-line-error  -recorder  "diffgeom.tex"'
> ------------
> Latexmk: applying rule 'pdflatex'...
> sh: pdflatex: command not found
> Latexmk: fls file doesn't appear to have been made
> Latexmk: Index file 'diffgeom.idx' was written
> Latexmk: Found input bbl file 'diffgeom.bbl'
> Latexmk: Log file says output to 'diffgeom.pdf'
> sh: kpsewhich: command not found
> sh: kpsewhich: command not found
> Latexmk: Failed to find one or more bibliography files 
>   diffgeo.bib
> Collected error summary (may duplicate other messages):
>   pdflatex: Command for 'pdflatex' gave return code 32512
> Latexmk: Use the -f option to force complete processing,
>  unless error was exceeding maximum runs of latex/pdflatex.
> Latexmk: Errors, so I did not complete making targets
> 
> I should point out that the first line in the root file is "% !TEX TS-program = pdflatexmk". Anybody have a clue as to what's going on?
> 
> 	-Gerard

Howdy,

I doubt that it has anything to do with the update of TeXShop. The second line seems to be where your problem comes from:

sh: pdflatex: command not found

but let's look at other things first.

What version of the OS are you using? What version of TeXShop did you have before the update? Did you recently update the OS? What happens if you change that first line to use pdflatex rather than pdflatexmk? What version of MacTeX/TeX Live are you using?

Given that information we can start to analyze your problem.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From gerard at ou.edu  Mon May  5 01:39:49 2014
From: gerard at ou.edu (Gerard Walschap)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 18:39:49 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] doc no longer compiling
Message-ID: <FB932F80-FD38-47DB-A642-C7E49B67C77C@ou.edu>

A document that I've been working on for years is all of a sudden no longer typesetting, and I just can't see what's wrong. When I opened TeXShop today, I was asked if I wanted to upgrade to 3.35 and I said yes (this is another machine than the one involved in a post several days ago). I then opened the root file for the document, and after typesetting got the following error:

Running 'pdflatex --shell-escape --synctex=1 --file-line-error  -recorder  "diffgeom.tex"'
------------
Latexmk: applying rule 'pdflatex'...
sh: pdflatex: command not found
Latexmk: fls file doesn't appear to have been made
Latexmk: Index file 'diffgeom.idx' was written
Latexmk: Found input bbl file 'diffgeom.bbl'
Latexmk: Log file says output to 'diffgeom.pdf'
sh: kpsewhich: command not found
sh: kpsewhich: command not found
Latexmk: Failed to find one or more bibliography files 
  diffgeo.bib
Collected error summary (may duplicate other messages):
  pdflatex: Command for 'pdflatex' gave return code 32512
Latexmk: Use the -f option to force complete processing,
 unless error was exceeding maximum runs of latex/pdflatex.
Latexmk: Errors, so I did not complete making targets

I should point out that the first line in the root file is "% !TEX TS-program = pdflatexmk". Anybody have a clue as to what's going on?

	-Gerard
 
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From nestoreaguilera at gmail.com  Mon May  5 01:40:28 2014
From: nestoreaguilera at gmail.com (Nestor E. Aguilera)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 20:40:28 -0300
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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On 4 May 2014, at 20:28, Herbert Schulz wrote:

> 
> On May 4, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Claus Gerhardt <claus.gerhardt at uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
> 
>> I assume that those who still work with 10.5 would also be happy to use MacTeX 2013 in the future instead of the latest version - at least I would, since the benefit they might gain seems to be negligible, if there is any.
>> 
>> Claus
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> There was a lot of discussion before support for OS X 10.4 was dropped in MacTeX (and MacTeXtras). Once the decision was made a final version of MacTeX/TeX Live for that year was saved so that they would have a distribution to download and use.
> 
> Most often a decision like that occurs because none of the developers can compile the binaries for that version of the OS. One of these days that will happen for OS X 10.5 and we won't have a choice.
> 
> I know that there are folks on this list still using OS X 10.5 either because they are still using PPC systems (Apple Computers seem to last a very long time) or can't update to 10.6 or later for one reason or another.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

I am confused: in my understanding MacTeX brings binaries for OS X such as pdftex or TeXShop, and the TeX Live current distribution. So, even there is no new version of TexShop (or any other front end) for OS X 10.5, just obtaining all the packages plus eventually the binaries for compiling TeX, LaTeX or any other system is of interest for those using 10.5 (PPC).

All the best,

Nestor

From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Mon May  5 01:44:15 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 19:44:15 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <F11373B7-6385-422C-B612-BBF2D7B6C627@uni-heidelberg.de>
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Precisely my thought.
However, some of the packages I am using are occasionally changed.
Regards
--schremmer



On May 4, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Claus Gerhardt wrote:

> I assume that those who still work with 10.5 would also be happy to  
> use MacTeX 2013 in the future instead of the latest version - at  
> least I would, since the benefit they might gain seems to be  
> negligible, if there is any.
>
> Claus
>
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 0:31, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 4, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Richard Koch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last year the GUI portion of MacTeX contained two copies of TeXShop
>>>
>>> I assume that one was 2.47 and the other one was the latest.
>>>
>>> Since 2.47 is final, why at all carry it? Those who, like me, are  
>>> is still on PPC have probably already upgraded to 2.47 and thus  
>>> don't need it. Any one new to TeX AND still on PPC can just be  
>>> directed to the TeXShop site. There can't be many.
>>>
>>> Puzzled regards
>>> --schremmer
>>>
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I guess my feeling is that if we are supporting OS X 10.5 we should  
>> support it as fully as possible.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Herb Schulz
>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Mon May  5 01:47:07 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 19:47:07 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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 <74FB4E00-2DA4-4CB2-A965-912B2DF6970C@wideopenwest.com>
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On May 4, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote:

> Once the decision was made a final version of MacTeX/TeX Live for  
> that year was saved so that they would have a distribution to  
> download and use.

All I ask is that they do the same for 10.5.8

Best regards
-schremmer


From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Mon May  5 04:01:27 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 19:01:27 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <B7059C56-FE70-478F-87D3-D9F310BAAB58@gmail.com>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
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Folks,

This is a general message slightly related to:

On May 4, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Since 2.47 is final, why at all carry it? Those who, like me, are is still on PPC have probably already upgraded to 2.47 and thus don't need it. Any one new to TeX AND still on PPC can just be directed to the TeXShop site. There can't be many.
> 
> Puzzled regards
> --schremmer

Originally we were going to drop PowerPC support in MacTeX-2014. Then as a test
I compiled TeX Live 2014 without any problems on PowerPC. We don't compile
luajittex or asymptote there.

So it is easy to support PowerPC and the main advantage is that users with
that processor can use tlmgr to update their systems, whereas if they are stuck
with TeX Live 2013 then all updates are manual.

I haven't investigated how many of our GUI apps support PowerPC. TeXShop 2.47
does, but its main purpose is to support Intel Leopard and Snow Leopard.

Dick Koch

From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Mon May  5 04:05:40 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 22:05:40 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
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On May 4, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Claus Gerhardt wrote:

>> I guess my feeling is that if we are supporting OS X 10.5 we should  
>> support it as fully as possible.



10.5 on PPC and 10.5 on Intel are are two very different situations:.  
One is hard and the other one is soft.

--Since 10.5 on PPC is the end of the line, until you get yourself a  
new *machine*, you are not going to think of upgrading TeXShop since  
there is nothing to upgrade to. TeXShop 2.47 is all I am going to have  
in the foreseeable future.

--On the other hand, 10.5 on Intel is a stop on the software road. At  
any time, anyone wants to upgrade TeXShop can do it after upgrading to  
10.6

Regards
--schremmer


From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Mon May  5 04:09:07 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 22:09:07 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Contents of MacTeXtras
In-Reply-To: <25906B43-4E23-40DD-9733-0946D2D80CF2@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <2CA4BDB6-55E0-4C68-9390-2A78C8FE69E1@wideopenwest.com>
 <53668E88.9040600@morningstar2.co.uk>
 <04D312FB-4062-49D1-A850-BE56DDEC358F@math.uoregon.edu>
 <B7059C56-FE70-478F-87D3-D9F310BAAB58@gmail.com>
 <25906B43-4E23-40DD-9733-0946D2D80CF2@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <8FAD72B1-FA96-42AE-AEF9-94F72396068A@gmail.com>


On May 4, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Richard Koch wrote:

> users with [PPC] processor can use tlmgr to update their systems,  
> whereas if they are stuck
> with TeX Live 2013 then all updates are manual.

Ah!

Grateful regards
--schremmer


From gerard at ou.edu  Tue May  6 00:24:49 2014
From: gerard at ou.edu (Walschap, Gerard)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:24:49 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] doc no longer compiling
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1399316401.92960.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
References: <mailman.3.1399316401.92960.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <D23A66D2-58FA-4C22-ADF2-E061F2EC4C67@ou.edu>


> 
> 
> On May 4, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Gerard Walschap <gerard at ou.edu> wrote:
> 
>> A document that I've been working on for years is all of a sudden no longer typesetting, and I just can't see what's wrong. When I opened TeXShop today, I was asked if I wanted to upgrade to 3.35 and I said yes (this is another machine than the one involved in a post several days ago). I then opened the root file for the document, and after typesetting got the following error:
>> 
>> Running 'pdflatex --shell-escape --synctex=1 --file-line-error  -recorder  "diffgeom.tex"'
>> ------------
>> Latexmk: applying rule 'pdflatex'...
>> sh: pdflatex: command not found
>> Latexmk: fls file doesn't appear to have been made
>> Latexmk: Index file 'diffgeom.idx' was written
>> Latexmk: Found input bbl file 'diffgeom.bbl'
>> Latexmk: Log file says output to 'diffgeom.pdf'
>> sh: kpsewhich: command not found
>> sh: kpsewhich: command not found
>> Latexmk: Failed to find one or more bibliography files 
>>  diffgeo.bib
>> Collected error summary (may duplicate other messages):
>>  pdflatex: Command for 'pdflatex' gave return code 32512
>> Latexmk: Use the -f option to force complete processing,
>> unless error was exceeding maximum runs of latex/pdflatex.
>> Latexmk: Errors, so I did not complete making targets
>> 
>> I should point out that the first line in the root file is "% !TEX TS-program = pdflatexmk". Anybody have a clue as to what's going on?
>> 
>> 	-Gerard
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> I doubt that it has anything to do with the update of TeXShop. The second line seems to be where your problem comes from:
> 
> sh: pdflatex: command not found
> 
> but let's look at other things first.
> 
> What version of the OS are you using? What version of TeXShop did you have before the update? Did you recently update the OS? What happens if you change that first line to use pdflatex rather than pdflatexmk? What version of MacTeX/TeX Live are you using?
> 
> Given that information we can start to analyze your problem.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> 
> 
> 


	Hi Herb,

	Yeah, sorry, I wasn?t sure what info to include in the original message. As it happens, I did upgrade from OS 10.8 to 10.9 right before firing up TeXShop. Am using TeXLive 2013. I?m not sure why, but I think the problem was fixed after I went to my TeX folder in Applications and opened a file named FixMacTeX2013.pkg. At least, it?s typesetting again.

	Is there anything else I should have done?

	Thanks,

	-Gerard



From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Tue May  6 04:27:18 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 21:27:18 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] doc no longer compiling
In-Reply-To: <D23A66D2-58FA-4C22-ADF2-E061F2EC4C67@ou.edu>
References: <mailman.3.1399316401.92960.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <D23A66D2-58FA-4C22-ADF2-E061F2EC4C67@ou.edu>
Message-ID: <4D6D167F-35B9-45E8-8851-9AC26E61788F@wideopenwest.com>


On May 5, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Walschap, Gerard <gerard at ou.edu> wrote:

> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 4, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Gerard Walschap <gerard at ou.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> A document that I've been working on for years is all of a sudden no longer typesetting, and I just can't see what's wrong. When I opened TeXShop today, I was asked if I wanted to upgrade to 3.35 and I said yes (this is another machine than the one involved in a post several days ago). I then opened the root file for the document, and after typesetting got the following error:
>>> 
>>> Running 'pdflatex --shell-escape --synctex=1 --file-line-error  -recorder  "diffgeom.tex"'
>>> ------------
>>> Latexmk: applying rule 'pdflatex'...
>>> sh: pdflatex: command not found
>>> Latexmk: fls file doesn't appear to have been made
>>> Latexmk: Index file 'diffgeom.idx' was written
>>> Latexmk: Found input bbl file 'diffgeom.bbl'
>>> Latexmk: Log file says output to 'diffgeom.pdf'
>>> sh: kpsewhich: command not found
>>> sh: kpsewhich: command not found
>>> Latexmk: Failed to find one or more bibliography files 
>>> diffgeo.bib
>>> Collected error summary (may duplicate other messages):
>>> pdflatex: Command for 'pdflatex' gave return code 32512
>>> Latexmk: Use the -f option to force complete processing,
>>> unless error was exceeding maximum runs of latex/pdflatex.
>>> Latexmk: Errors, so I did not complete making targets
>>> 
>>> I should point out that the first line in the root file is "% !TEX TS-program = pdflatexmk". Anybody have a clue as to what's going on?
>>> 
>>> 	-Gerard
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> I doubt that it has anything to do with the update of TeXShop. The second line seems to be where your problem comes from:
>> 
>> sh: pdflatex: command not found
>> 
>> but let's look at other things first.
>> 
>> What version of the OS are you using? What version of TeXShop did you have before the update? Did you recently update the OS? What happens if you change that first line to use pdflatex rather than pdflatexmk? What version of MacTeX/TeX Live are you using?
>> 
>> Given that information we can start to analyze your problem.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 	Hi Herb,
> 
> 	Yeah, sorry, I wasn?t sure what info to include in the original message. As it happens, I did upgrade from OS 10.8 to 10.9 right before firing up TeXShop. Am using TeXLive 2013. I?m not sure why, but I think the problem was fixed after I went to my TeX folder in Applications and opened a file named FixMacTeX2013.pkg. At least, it?s typesetting again.
> 
> 	Is there anything else I should have done?
> 
> 	Thanks,
> 
> 	-Gerard
> 

Howdy,

That would have been the first thing I would have suggested doing! Glad it worked!

Apple's major updates don't always play nicely with symbolic links and /usr/texbin is really a symbolic link that ends up pointing to the binaries of the active TeX distribution (controlled by the TeX Distribution Preference Pane in System Preferences --- but broken under Mavericks [hopefully fixed for MacTeX 2014]). The FixMacTeX2013.pkg fixes many of the problems we've seen folks have when updating major OS versions, etc. It's not perfect but it solves several problems that can crop up.

We've still had to do some deep analysis with some problems so it's nice to see that yours was fixed by installing FixMacTeX2013.pkg.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From jvarona at unirioja.es  Mon May  5 14:39:18 2014
From: jvarona at unirioja.es (Juan Luis Varona)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 12:39:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>


> 
> I am finding that during lengthy sessions of work with TeXShop 3.35, 
> there typically comes a point where Command-T no longer works. 
> The same is also true when I select ?Typeset? from the Typeset menu. 
> The only way to typeset then is to select the ?Typeset? button 
> in the source-file window menu. 
> Quitting and re-opening TeXShop solves the problem.

With 3.35, I have seen the same problem a couple of times.

Actually, not only with Command-T, but also Command-1,
for instance.

Juan Luis




From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Tue May  6 22:30:52 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 15:30:52 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>


On May 5, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Juan Luis Varona <jvarona at unirioja.es> wrote:

> 
>> 
>> I am finding that during lengthy sessions of work with TeXShop 3.35, 
>> there typically comes a point where Command-T no longer works. 
>> The same is also true when I select ?Typeset? from the Typeset menu. 
>> The only way to typeset then is to select the ?Typeset? button 
>> in the source-file window menu. 
>> Quitting and re-opening TeXShop solves the problem.
> 
> With 3.35, I have seen the same problem a couple of times.
> 
> Actually, not only with Command-T, but also Command-1,
> for instance.
> 
> Juan Luis

Howdy,

Can I ask what OS X version you are using?

I've had no response to keyboard shortcuts on rare occasions with other apps (e.g., Mail) under Mavericks so I suspect an OS bug. Another rare event is the dropping of response to my Magic Trackpad shortly after wake from sleep; I have to shut it down, wait until the OS notices it's gone and then turn it back on. Finally, for the first time in years, The whole system froze; accepting no input and even a displayed clock stopped running so I had to force shut down and restart.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From juantolo at me.com  Wed May  7 06:42:21 2014
From: juantolo at me.com (juan tolosa)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 00:42:21 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
 <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>

Something that happened for the first time after installed Mavericks is, sometimes TeXShop quits unexpectedly, and I have to relaunch it.

Juan

On May 6, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Juan Luis Varona <jvarona at unirioja.es> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I am finding that during lengthy sessions of work with TeXShop 3.35, 
>>> there typically comes a point where Command-T no longer works. 
>>> The same is also true when I select ?Typeset? from the Typeset menu. 
>>> The only way to typeset then is to select the ?Typeset? button 
>>> in the source-file window menu. 
>>> Quitting and re-opening TeXShop solves the problem.
>> 
>> With 3.35, I have seen the same problem a couple of times.
>> 
>> Actually, not only with Command-T, but also Command-1,
>> for instance.
>> 
>> Juan Luis
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Can I ask what OS X version you are using?
> 
> I've had no response to keyboard shortcuts on rare occasions with other apps (e.g., Mail) under Mavericks so I suspect an OS bug. Another rare event is the dropping of response to my Magic Trackpad shortly after wake from sleep; I have to shut it down, wait until the OS notices it's gone and then turn it back on. Finally, for the first time in years, The whole system froze; accepting no input and even a displayed clock stopped running so I had to force shut down and restart.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Wed May  7 14:25:22 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 07:25:22 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
 <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
 <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>
Message-ID: <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>


On May 6, 2014, at 11:42 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:

> Something that happened for the first time after installed Mavericks is, sometimes TeXShop quits unexpectedly, and I have to relaunch it.
> 
> Juan

Howdy,

Has it happened multiple times? That's something I haven't seen. As a matter of fact I've found 3.35 to be unbreakable under Mavericks.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From rm.tech at mac.com  Wed May  7 15:27:35 2014
From: rm.tech at mac.com (R Martinez)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 06:27:35 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
 <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
 <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>
 <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <E13F5553-0C6F-43A4-B049-62707153A615@mac.com>

All,

TS 3.35 works fine for me running OS 10.9.2. I've been using TS 3.35 almost nonstop since the day it came out and have experienced no glitches. 

HTH,

Raul Martinez


Sent from my iPad 4

> On May 7, 2014, at 5:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 11:42 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Something that happened for the first time after installed Mavericks is, sometimes TeXShop quits unexpectedly, and I have to relaunch it.
>> 
>> Juan
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Has it happened multiple times? That's something I haven't seen. As a matter of fact I've found 3.35 to be unbreakable under Mavericks.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From will.adams at frycomm.com  Wed May  7 18:08:57 2014
From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 12:08:57 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Extending the file open dialog to support arbitrary URLs
Message-ID: <10676081-0EB4-44F7-93A0-680FFF2B50C9@frycomm.com>

Came across the command for converting a wikipedia page into a .pdf (using LaTeX):

pandoc -s --latex-engine=xelatex -r html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers/Archive_142 -o archive_142.pdf

and was struck by how convenient it would be to be able to use TeXshop to open up arbitrary files on the 'net, using pandoc  &c. to convert them to latex files

Would this be something to build into TeXshop? If File | Open wouldn't be suitable, could we add a File | Import from URL?

William

-- 
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.



From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Wed May  7 18:25:42 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 11:25:42 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Extending the file open dialog to support arbitrary
	URLs
In-Reply-To: <10676081-0EB4-44F7-93A0-680FFF2B50C9@frycomm.com>
References: <10676081-0EB4-44F7-93A0-680FFF2B50C9@frycomm.com>
Message-ID: <1DD75F5B-6CA4-4F5D-8F25-9E7C4E581147@wideopenwest.com>


On May 7, 2014, at 11:08 AM, William Adams <will.adams at frycomm.com> wrote:

> Came across the command for converting a wikipedia page into a .pdf (using LaTeX):
> 
> pandoc -s --latex-engine=xelatex -r html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers/Archive_142 -o archive_142.pdf
> 
> and was struck by how convenient it would be to be able to use TeXshop to open up arbitrary files on the 'net, using pandoc  &c. to convert them to latex files
> 
> Would this be something to build into TeXshop? If File | Open wouldn't be suitable, could we add a File | Import from URL?
> 
> William

Howdy,

Would this workflow be a job for Automator?

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From juantolo at me.com  Wed May  7 19:51:37 2014
From: juantolo at me.com (juan tolosa)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 13:51:37 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
 <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
 <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>
 <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <CB02080F-FB63-4EDE-A589-80D753890AA0@me.com>

Herb,
It happened a few times, four or five. Nothing terrible, once I relanuched TeXShop, the document was there, latest changes included. It was just a little surprising.
Juan

On May 7, 2014, at 8:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 6, 2014, at 11:42 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Something that happened for the first time after installed Mavericks is, sometimes TeXShop quits unexpectedly, and I have to relaunch it.
>> 
>> Juan
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Has it happened multiple times? That's something I haven't seen. As a matter of fact I've found 3.35 to be unbreakable under Mavericks.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Wed May  7 23:03:10 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 16:03:10 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <CB02080F-FB63-4EDE-A589-80D753890AA0@me.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
 <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
 <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>
 <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>
 <CB02080F-FB63-4EDE-A589-80D753890AA0@me.com>
Message-ID: <4B1C9084-93CC-40A9-A4F9-874921C5FB0C@wideopenwest.com>


On May 7, 2014, at 12:51 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:

> Herb,
> It happened a few times, four or five. Nothing terrible, once I relanuched TeXShop, the document was there, latest changes included. It was just a little surprising.
> Juan
> 

Howdy,

No crash log at all? It just quit? And it stopped doing that?

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From juantolo at me.com  Thu May  8 03:39:07 2014
From: juantolo at me.com (juan tolosa)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 21:39:07 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <CB02080F-FB63-4EDE-A589-80D753890AA0@me.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
 <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
 <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>
 <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>
 <CB02080F-FB63-4EDE-A589-80D753890AA0@me.com>
Message-ID: <2A765732-EAF7-4621-83EF-4869674326B6@me.com>

That is right, no crash log, TeXShop just quit. And it hasn't happened for over a week now.
Thanks,
               Juan

On May 7, 2014, at 1:51 PM, juan tolosa <juanTolo at me.com> wrote:

> Herb,
> It happened a few times, four or five. Nothing terrible, once I relanuched TeXShop, the document was there, latest changes included. It was just a little surprising.
> Juan
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 8:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 11:42 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Something that happened for the first time after installed Mavericks is, sometimes TeXShop quits unexpectedly, and I have to relaunch it.
>>> 
>>> Juan
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Has it happened multiple times? That's something I haven't seen. As a matter of fact I've found 3.35 to be unbreakable under Mavericks.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Thu May  8 11:51:22 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 04:51:22 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <2A765732-EAF7-4621-83EF-4869674326B6@me.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
 <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
 <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>
 <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>
 <CB02080F-FB63-4EDE-A589-80D753890AA0@me.com>
 <2A765732-EAF7-4621-83EF-4869674326B6@me.com>
Message-ID: <70B56F26-2E50-4F82-9915-A1D966BC68CB@wideopenwest.com>


On May 7, 2014, at 8:39 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:

> That is right, no crash log, TeXShop just quit. And it hasn't happened for over a week now.
> Thanks,
>               Juan

Howdy,

One last query. Is there any consistency about what you were doing in TeXShop when it quit?

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From juantolo at me.com  Thu May  8 21:48:33 2014
From: juantolo at me.com (juan tolosa)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 15:48:33 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.35 and Command-T/Typeset menu problem
In-Reply-To: <70B56F26-2E50-4F82-9915-A1D966BC68CB@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CAFMOkGXW03PJYmK1gPi7qCusYYrBnB+M2wuaYtSQzp0Un19dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <loom.20140505T143643-754@post.gmane.org>
 <22453E48-E6C9-4140-9D6E-C1B79C4A201F@wideopenwest.com>
 <F88B7649-0BE9-4695-9AE5-04FF7D1F185F@me.com>
 <B4FD8E24-1106-4D7F-B3F8-07ED66B55F6B@wideopenwest.com>
 <CB02080F-FB63-4EDE-A589-80D753890AA0@me.com>
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 <70B56F26-2E50-4F82-9915-A1D966BC68CB@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <1B05602B-53EC-4F3A-B46F-4B9874E08B4A@me.com>

Herb,

If my memory doesn't fail me, every time TeXShop quit (I got a message, by the way, that TeXShop unexpectedly quit) was when I was also opening documents using Adobe Acrobat.

Best,
            Juan

On May 8, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 8:39 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> That is right, no crash log, TeXShop just quit. And it hasn't happened for over a week now.
>> Thanks,
>>              Juan
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> One last query. Is there any consistency about what you were doing in TeXShop when it quit?
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From gratzer at me.com  Sun May 11 16:59:23 2014
From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 10:59:23 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
Message-ID: <EC2B655F-0A28-4015-AF11-DB02BBF358C1@me.com>

I needed a symbol for "swing to", see attachment. How did I do it?

GG







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From vivrii at gmail.com  Sun May 11 22:52:39 2014
From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 16:52:39 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
In-Reply-To: <EC2B655F-0A28-4015-AF11-DB02BBF358C1@me.com>
References: <EC2B655F-0A28-4015-AF11-DB02BBF358C1@me.com>
Message-ID: <CADP=ZZpaufTzFwUjwacGWeG=15VdRUT7asLd0X5tuC35VYmWHA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 10:59 AM, George Gratzer <gratzer at me.com> wrote:

> I needed a symbol for "swing to", see attachment. How did I do it?
>
>
>




I looked to "comprehensive symbol list". There are tons of arrows, some of
them similar, but nothing exactly like what you ask. Which means you need
to cook it by yourself. Something like below--with angle (160) and vertical
shift (2pt) adjusted by your own taste


\documentclass[12pt]{article}
\usepackage{amssymb}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\newcommand{\swingsto}{\raisebox{2pt}{\rotatebox{160}{$\curvearrowleft$}}}
\begin{document}
$$
\mathfrak{p} \swingsto\mathfrak{q}
$$
\end{document}


-Victor

Victor Ivrii
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From ross.moore at mq.edu.au  Mon May 12 00:28:56 2014
From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:28:56 +1000
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
In-Reply-To: <EC2B655F-0A28-4015-AF11-DB02BBF358C1@me.com>
References: <EC2B655F-0A28-4015-AF11-DB02BBF358C1@me.com>
Message-ID: <35749487-EF82-4DE9-93B5-B1526CBD822F@mq.edu.au>

Hi George,

On 12/05/2014, at 12:59 AM, George Gratzer wrote:

> I needed a symbol for "swing to", see attachment. How did I do it?

The symbol you "constructed" already exists in Unicode, 
and is available in the STIX font set.

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Generally you are doing no-one any favours by inventing a completely
new symbol. It will not be supported in fonts, and has no way to
be accessible to mathematicians with visual impairment.

It is far better to take a good look at what is already available,
and just invent the new usage case for an existing symbol.


> 
> GG


Hope this helps,

	Ross

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From lfsequeira at gmail.com  Mon May 12 11:50:39 2014
From: lfsequeira at gmail.com (Luis Sequeira)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:50:39 +0100
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
Message-ID: <DE8326C9-BEC3-4EC2-9F91-D4A86E68DFAA@gmail.com>

> I needed a symbol for "swing to", see attachment. How did I do it?
> 
> GG

Did you use \rotatebox and \curveleftarrow?

Something like:

\newcommand{\swings}{\mathop{\rotatebox{135}{$\curvearrowleft$}}}

Am I close?

Luis Sequeira




From vivrii at gmail.com  Mon May 12 12:26:57 2014
From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 06:26:57 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
In-Reply-To: <DE8326C9-BEC3-4EC2-9F91-D4A86E68DFAA@gmail.com>
References: <DE8326C9-BEC3-4EC2-9F91-D4A86E68DFAA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADP=ZZpU=ThDMBgSMpjunH2ee7=YOpMvnqas_TRHWWM0Eerz=w@mail.gmail.com>

I suspect that George either used either package stix or xelatex with
package unicode-math and  command \ccwundercurvearrow
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From rvk7 at icloud.com  Mon May 12 14:31:46 2014
From: rvk7 at icloud.com (R. Vijay Krishna)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:31:46 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
In-Reply-To: <EC2B655F-0A28-4015-AF11-DB02BBF358C1@me.com>
References: <EC2B655F-0A28-4015-AF11-DB02BBF358C1@me.com>
Message-ID: <6AA6E52A-32A1-4839-9A8D-2E44FEC90878@icloud.com>

Perhaps the symbol on page 4 (acts on left) is what you are looking for <http://www.math.toronto.edu/~drorbn/projects/dbnsymb/dbnsymbman.pdf>?



Vijay


> On May 11, 2014, at 10:59 AM, George Gratzer <gratzer at me.com> wrote:
> 
> I needed a symbol for "swing to", see attachment. How did I do it?
> 
> GG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <trajectories.pdf>
> 
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From gratzer at me.com  Tue May 13 17:09:10 2014
From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 11:09:10 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
In-Reply-To: <CADP=ZZpU=ThDMBgSMpjunH2ee7=YOpMvnqas_TRHWWM0Eerz=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DE8326C9-BEC3-4EC2-9F91-D4A86E68DFAA@gmail.com>
 <CADP=ZZpU=ThDMBgSMpjunH2ee7=YOpMvnqas_TRHWWM0Eerz=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F57A83B1-1E50-4468-936F-EEF95B0F1615@me.com>

Actually, Victor, I did not know that STIX has been released. 
Last I checked was last summer, and the Web Site has not been updated for years..
So they celebrated the 19th year of the project by releasing it.

Awesome.

GG.



On May 12, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Victor Ivrii <vivrii at gmail.com> wrote:

> I suspect that George either used either package stix or xelatex with package unicode-math and  command \ccwundercurvearrow 
> 
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From gratzer at me.com  Tue May 13 17:09:33 2014
From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 11:09:33 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
In-Reply-To: <DE8326C9-BEC3-4EC2-9F91-D4A86E68DFAA@gmail.com>
References: <DE8326C9-BEC3-4EC2-9F91-D4A86E68DFAA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6B13FA1-B487-4E31-B83E-E3C3FF9A1BDF@me.com>

Very.

On May 12, 2014, at 5:50 AM, Luis Sequeira <lfsequeira at gmail.com> wrote:

>> I needed a symbol for "swing to", see attachment. How did I do it?
>> 
>> GG
> 
> Did you use \rotatebox and \curveleftarrow?
> 
> Something like:
> 
> \newcommand{\swings}{\mathop{\rotatebox{135}{$\curvearrowleft$}}}
> 
> Am I close?
> 
> Luis Sequeira
> 
> 
> 
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From gratzer at me.com  Tue May 13 18:52:24 2014
From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:52:24 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] A puzzle
In-Reply-To: <35749487-EF82-4DE9-93B5-B1526CBD822F@mq.edu.au>
References: <EC2B655F-0A28-4015-AF11-DB02BBF358C1@me.com>
 <35749487-EF82-4DE9-93B5-B1526CBD822F@mq.edu.au>
Message-ID: <7E9FA60B-BCED-493B-898A-353A712272AC@me.com>

I have been following STIX for soo long (almost 20 years).

I did not know it was released.

GG

On May 11, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Ross Moore <ross.moore at mq.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi George,
> 
> On 12/05/2014, at 12:59 AM, George Gratzer wrote:
> 
>> I needed a symbol for "swing to", see attachment. How did I do it?
> 
> The symbol you "constructed" already exists in Unicode, 
> and is available in the STIX font set.
> 
> <Screen shot 2014-05-12 at 8.21.52 AM.png>
> 
> Generally you are doing no-one any favours by inventing a completely
> new symbol. It will not be supported in fonts, and has no way to
> be accessible to mathematicians with visual impairment.
> 
> It is far better to take a good look at what is already available,
> and just invent the new usage case for an existing symbol.
> 
> 
>> 
>> GG
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> 	Ross
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From gratzer at me.com  Tue May 13 18:59:53 2014
From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:59:53 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Puzzle 2
Message-ID: <89CC368F-8EBD-4A41-BD82-9B7DBA35355E@me.com>

I am inserting an illustration. I copy a formula from the paper, and paste it in the \caption.

Will not typeset. How come?

GG


From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Tue May 13 19:39:48 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:39:48 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Puzzle 2
In-Reply-To: <89CC368F-8EBD-4A41-BD82-9B7DBA35355E@me.com>
References: <89CC368F-8EBD-4A41-BD82-9B7DBA35355E@me.com>
Message-ID: <4019B4A6-9796-402A-941F-AB05A59B7D37@wideopenwest.com>


On May 13, 2014, at 11:59 AM, George Gratzer <gratzer at me.com> wrote:

> I am inserting an illustration. I copy a formula from the paper, and paste it in the \caption.
> 
> Will not typeset. How come?
> 
> GG

Howdy,

I'm afraid it isn't clear what you mean? If I use

\begin{figure}
\centering
This is a Figure
\caption{A caption with an equation: \(x^{2}+y^{2}=z^{2}\).}
\end{figure}

(Note: I use the fixltx2e package to fix up \(...\)). I don't see a problem. Are you creating a list of figures?

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Tue May 13 22:32:27 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 13:32:27 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36
Message-ID: <1D18521C-153C-4644-ABA3-780916FF19B0@math.uoregon.edu>

Folks,

TeXShop 3.36 is available via the Sparkle update mechanism and from

	http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html

Dick Koch


From jmfont at ub.edu  Tue May 13 22:59:56 2014
From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 20:59:56 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] Puzzle 2
In-Reply-To: <4019B4A6-9796-402A-941F-AB05A59B7D37@wideopenwest.com>
References: <89CC368F-8EBD-4A41-BD82-9B7DBA35355E@me.com>
 <4019B4A6-9796-402A-941F-AB05A59B7D37@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <BDBDA3CF-E568-45ED-9C57-4DB88AB3B6DA@ub.edu>

On May 13, 2014, at 11:59 AM, George Gratzer <gratzer at me.com> wrote:

> I am inserting an illustration. I copy a formula from the paper, and paste it in the \caption.
>
> Will not typeset. How come?

Did you forget anything when copying ? Does the formula have any complicated macros ? \caption is rather fussy about "fragile" commands. Remember that its argument will go to the list of figures, where it might not find the necessary boundary conditions to typeset correctly.

Can you give a minimal (non)working example ?

Best,


JMaF



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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Wed May 14 01:50:23 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:50:23 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36 update.
Message-ID: <5014F2E1-F685-43E0-9EAD-89A65A029E1A@wideopenwest.com>

Howdy,

If you downloaded and installed TeXShop 3.36 either via Sparkle update or download from Dick Koch's site, <http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html> there is an updated version available at the site. You can't use Sparkle to update since the version number hasn't changed so go to the site and download it.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From gratzer at me.com  Wed May 14 02:18:23 2014
From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 20:18:23 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Puzzle 2
In-Reply-To: <BDBDA3CF-E568-45ED-9C57-4DB88AB3B6DA@ub.edu>
References: <89CC368F-8EBD-4A41-BD82-9B7DBA35355E@me.com>
 <4019B4A6-9796-402A-941F-AB05A59B7D37@wideopenwest.com>
 <BDBDA3CF-E568-45ED-9C57-4DB88AB3B6DA@ub.edu>
Message-ID: <449665EE-5CBE-4831-A64F-089220EEF2C8@me.com>


On May 13, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Josep Maria Font <jmfont at ub.edu> wrote:

> On May 13, 2014, at 11:59 AM, George Gratzer <gratzer at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am inserting an illustration. I copy a formula from the paper, and paste it in the \caption.
>> 
>> Will not typeset. How come?
> 
> Did you forget anything when copying ?

No

> Does the formula have any complicated macros ? \caption is rather fussy about "fragile" commands.

Frafile would not matter until i have a list of figures.


> Remember that its argument will go to the list of figures, where it might not find the necessary boundary conditions to typeset correctly.
> 
> Can you give a minimal (non)working example ?

No, it would give the puzzle away

GG

> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> JMaF
> 
> 
> 
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From murrayeisenberg at gmail.com  Wed May 14 22:31:21 2014
From: murrayeisenberg at gmail.com (Murray Eisenberg)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 16:31:21 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36 update.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1400094000.82014.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
References: <mailman.3.1400094000.82014.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <0C12CF67-826B-48B3-A88C-70CF04DBBC81@gmail.com>

If there's no difference in version number, and no build number or date/time, how exactly is one supposed to know whether, at the time of last update, via Sparkle or otherwise, one got the most recent version?

(Issuing multiple, different versions of software with the same version numbers should surely risk consigning one to one of the circles of Hell?)

On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:50:23 -0500, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> If you downloaded and installed TeXShop 3.36 either via Sparkle update or download from Dick Koch's site, <http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html> there is an updated version available at the site. You can't use Sparkle to update since the version number hasn't changed so go to the site and download it.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

---
Murray Eisenberg		murrayeisenberg at gmail.com
503 King Farm Blvd #101		Home (240)-246-7240
Rockville, MD 20850-6667	Mobile (413)-427-5334







From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Wed May 14 22:46:30 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 15:46:30 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36 update.
In-Reply-To: <0C12CF67-826B-48B3-A88C-70CF04DBBC81@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.3.1400094000.82014.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <0C12CF67-826B-48B3-A88C-70CF04DBBC81@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C5AAC6D6-4CA1-4B9D-8E72-2F26CAF29C9C@wideopenwest.com>


On May 14, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> If there's no difference in version number, and no build number or date/time, how exactly is one supposed to know whether, at the time of last update, via Sparkle or otherwise, one got the most recent version?
> 
> (Issuing multiple, different versions of software with the same version numbers should surely risk consigning one to one of the circles of Hell?)
> 
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:50:23 -0500, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> If you downloaded and installed TeXShop 3.36 either via Sparkle update or download from Dick Koch's site, <http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html> there is an updated version available at the site. You can't use Sparkle to update since the version number hasn't changed so go to the site and download it.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> ---
> Murray Eisenberg		murrayeisenberg at gmail.com
> 503 King Farm Blvd #101		Home (240)-246-7240
> Rockville, MD 20850-6667	Mobile (413)-427-5334

Howdy,

Simple... If you downloaded it or used Sparkle before that message arrived you should download it (can't use Sparkle) again. :-)

If you are willing to look inside the application there is another thing that will tell you. But that is not for the squeamish. Let me know and I'll tell you.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From gray at psu.edu  Wed May 14 22:53:41 2014
From: gray at psu.edu (Gary L. Gray)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 16:53:41 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36 update.
In-Reply-To: <C5AAC6D6-4CA1-4B9D-8E72-2F26CAF29C9C@wideopenwest.com>
References: <mailman.3.1400094000.82014.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <0C12CF67-826B-48B3-A88C-70CF04DBBC81@gmail.com>
 <C5AAC6D6-4CA1-4B9D-8E72-2F26CAF29C9C@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <D2965E46-52D1-4C03-878E-AD37B3FC5007@psu.edu>

On May 14, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> Simple... If you downloaded it or used Sparkle before that message arrived you should download it (can't use Sparkle) again. :-)
> 
> If you are willing to look inside the application there is another thing that will tell you. But that is not for the squeamish. Let me know and I'll tell you.

I think the point is that if the app changes, the version number should change so that the update mechanism will prompt people to download the new version. This should *always* happen, without exception, no matter how minor the update. It could have become 3.36.1, for example. This is essential for the average shmoe, of which there are many, including me.

Gary



From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Wed May 14 23:21:10 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:21:10 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36 update.
In-Reply-To: <D2965E46-52D1-4C03-878E-AD37B3FC5007@psu.edu>
References: <mailman.3.1400094000.82014.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <0C12CF67-826B-48B3-A88C-70CF04DBBC81@gmail.com>
 <C5AAC6D6-4CA1-4B9D-8E72-2F26CAF29C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <D2965E46-52D1-4C03-878E-AD37B3FC5007@psu.edu>
Message-ID: <8CF4D47E-C631-4321-A508-42047BA9AFB5@math.uoregon.edu>

Folks,

On May 14, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Gary L. Gray <gray at psu.edu> wrote:

> I think the point is that if the app changes, the version number should change so that the update mechanism will prompt people to download the new version. This should *always* happen, without exception, no matter how minor the update. It could have become 3.36.1, for example. This is essential for the average shmoe, of which there are many, including me.

Updating the version number involves lots of changes. It isn?t merely changing one number.

Within two hours of release, I discovered that icons were broken in 3.36, so I fixed the problem.
Since I was busy the rest of yesterday, today, and tomorrow, the alternative was to do nothing.
Then

	Lots of people download. They all discover a problem. They
	write me but get no answer. For several days, they are left
	hanging.

Dick




From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Thu May 15 15:22:18 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:22:18 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36 update.
In-Reply-To: <D2965E46-52D1-4C03-878E-AD37B3FC5007@psu.edu>
References: <mailman.3.1400094000.82014.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <0C12CF67-826B-48B3-A88C-70CF04DBBC81@gmail.com>
 <C5AAC6D6-4CA1-4B9D-8E72-2F26CAF29C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <D2965E46-52D1-4C03-878E-AD37B3FC5007@psu.edu>
Message-ID: <D53E4BEB-3F8C-445F-9E5E-B1BC0E4D70D1@wideopenwest.com>


On May 14, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Gary L. Gray <gray at psu.edu> wrote:

> On May 14, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> Simple... If you downloaded it or used Sparkle before that message arrived you should download it (can't use Sparkle) again. :-)
>> 
>> If you are willing to look inside the application there is another thing that will tell you. But that is not for the squeamish. Let me know and I'll tell you.
> 
> I think the point is that if the app changes, the version number should change so that the update mechanism will prompt people to download the new version. This should *always* happen, without exception, no matter how minor the update. It could have become 3.36.1, for example. This is essential for the average shmoe, of which there are many, including me.
> 
> Gary

Howdy,

Didn't mean any offence with my comment; added the smiley just for that reason. In any case Dick Koch answered better.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From fv at meinrechtsanwalt.com  Thu May 15 17:09:41 2014
From: fv at meinrechtsanwalt.com (RA Friedrich Vosberg)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 17:09:41 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop crash
Message-ID: <9000D465-F8A1-4ABA-9EEF-F78ACC459A56@meinrechtsanwalt.com>

This crash of TeXShop has occurred when I?ve opened a TEX file in Devonthink Pro Office by command open file with ?

Hope that helps. Kind regards, Friedrich

Process:         TeXShop [10847]
Path:            /Applications/TeX/TeXShop.app/Contents/MacOS/TeXShop
Identifier:      TeXShop
Version:         3.18 (3.18)
Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [4214]
Responsible:     TeXShop [10847]
User ID:         501

Date/Time:       2014-05-15 17:07:35.439 +0200
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C1021)
Report Version:  11
Anonymous UUID:  49EC125A-A858-1B5D-5F72-65736EDE7989

Sleep/Wake UUID: E5BA75D5-866B-4091-8918-EC9A65F99266

Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: EXC_I386_GPFLT

Application Specific Information:
objc_msgSend() selector name: respondsToSelector:


Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libobjc.A.dylib               	0x00007fff87710097 objc_msgSend + 23
1   TeXShop                       	0x0000000101ccc4c0 0x101c77000 + 349376
2   TeXShop                       	0x0000000101ccc824 0x101c77000 + 350244
3   TeXShop                       	0x0000000101cc73d2 0x101c77000 + 328658
4   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e76247b -[NSWindowController _windowDidLoad] + 545
5   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e749016 -[NSWindowController window] + 110
6   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e74a160 -[NSWindowController showWindow:] + 36
7   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e816605 -[NSDocument showWindows] + 100
8   TeXShop                       	0x0000000101cc9063 0x101c77000 + 335971
9   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e97c82d __80-[NSDocumentController openDocumentWithContentsOfURL:display:completionHandler:]_block_invoke855 + 198
10  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e97c416 __80-[NSDocumentController openDocumentWithContentsOfURL:display:completionHandler:]_block_invoke837 + 237
11  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e97be31 __80-[NSDocumentController openDocumentWithContentsOfURL:display:completionHandler:]_block_invoke_4 + 578
12  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e97b120 -[NSDocumentController _openDocumentWithContentsOfURL:usingProcedure:] + 583
13  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e97bbcb __80-[NSDocumentController openDocumentWithContentsOfURL:display:completionHandler:]_block_invoke_3 + 300
14  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0d753c __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_BLOCK__ + 12
15  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c8b95 __CFRunLoopDoBlocks + 341
16  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c891e __CFRunLoopRun + 1982
17  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c7f25 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 309
18  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff8302fa0d RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 226
19  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff8302f7b7 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 479
20  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff8302f5bc _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 65
21  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e4cd3de _DPSNextEvent + 1434
22  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e4cca2b -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 122
23  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e4c0b2c -[NSApplication run] + 553
24  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e4ab913 NSApplicationMain + 940
25  TeXShop                       	0x0000000101c78ea4 0x101c77000 + 7844

Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a2662 kevent64 + 10
1   libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff8992443d _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 239
2   libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff89924152 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 52

Thread 2:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e49da1a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e49cd18 mach_msg + 64
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c8fc5 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 181
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c85e9 __CFRunLoopRun + 1161
4   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c7f25 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 309
5   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e66d16e _NSEventThread + 144
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
8   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 3:: com.apple.NSURLConnectionLoader
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e49da1a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e49cd18 mach_msg + 64
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c8fc5 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 181
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c85e9 __CFRunLoopRun + 1161
4   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff8c0c7f25 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 309
5   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff8d131967 +[NSURLConnection(Loader) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 348
6   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff8d13176b __NSThread__main__ + 1318
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
8   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
9   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 4:: JavaScriptCore::BlockFree
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ebc3b _pthread_cond_wait + 727
2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e0542a5 JSC::BlockAllocator::blockFreeingThreadMain() + 261
3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e04953f WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) + 15
4   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 5:: JavaScriptCore::Marking
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ebc3b _pthread_cond_wait + 727
2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054d17 JSC::GCThread::waitForNextPhase() + 119
3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054ba8 JSC::GCThread::gcThreadMain() + 88
4   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e04953f WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) + 15
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 6:: JavaScriptCore::Marking
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ebc3b _pthread_cond_wait + 727
2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054d17 JSC::GCThread::waitForNextPhase() + 119
3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054ba8 JSC::GCThread::gcThreadMain() + 88
4   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e04953f WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) + 15
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 7:: JavaScriptCore::Marking
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ebc3b _pthread_cond_wait + 727
2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054d17 JSC::GCThread::waitForNextPhase() + 119
3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054ba8 JSC::GCThread::gcThreadMain() + 88
4   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e04953f WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) + 15
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 8:: JavaScriptCore::Marking
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ebc3b _pthread_cond_wait + 727
2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054d17 JSC::GCThread::waitForNextPhase() + 119
3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054ba8 JSC::GCThread::gcThreadMain() + 88
4   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e04953f WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) + 15
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 9:: JavaScriptCore::Marking
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ebc3b _pthread_cond_wait + 727
2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054d17 JSC::GCThread::waitForNextPhase() + 119
3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054ba8 JSC::GCThread::gcThreadMain() + 88
4   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e04953f WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) + 15
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 10:: JavaScriptCore::Marking
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ebc3b _pthread_cond_wait + 727
2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054d17 JSC::GCThread::waitForNextPhase() + 119
3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e054ba8 JSC::GCThread::gcThreadMain() + 88
4   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8e04953f WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) + 15
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 11:: Dispatch queue: NSOperationQueue Serial Queue
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1746 __psynch_mutexwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ec779 _pthread_mutex_lock + 372
2   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff8d0d622b -[NSLock lock] + 145
3   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e731fc1 __37-[NSUIHeartBeat updateHeartBeatState]_block_invoke135 + 62
4   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff8d0f30b5 -[NSBlockOperation main] + 75
5   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff8d0d28a1 -[__NSOperationInternal _start:] + 631
6   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff8d0d254b __NSOQSchedule_f + 64
7   libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff899222ad _dispatch_client_callout + 8
8   libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff8992468f _dispatch_queue_drain + 451
9   libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff899259dd _dispatch_queue_invoke + 110
10  libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff89923fa3 _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 75
11  libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff89925193 _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 40
12  libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822eaef8 _pthread_wqthread + 314
13  libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfb9 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 12:: com.apple.appkit-heartbeat
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1a3a __semwait_signal + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff89912dc0 nanosleep + 200
2   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff89912cb2 usleep + 54
3   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff8e73121d -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 2132
4   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff8d13176b __NSThread__main__ + 1318
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 13:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822eaf08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfb9 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 14:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822eaf08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfb9 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 15:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822eaf08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfb9 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 16:: CVDisplayLink
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff8e4a1716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822ebc77 _pthread_cond_wait + 787
2   com.apple.CoreVideo           	0x00007fff8c3a2464 CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 244
3   com.apple.CoreVideo           	0x00007fff8c3a1998 CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 496
4   com.apple.CoreVideo           	0x00007fff8c3a178f startIOThread(void*) + 147
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e9899 _pthread_body + 138
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822e972a _pthread_start + 137
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff822edfc9 thread_start + 13

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
  rax: 0x00007fc690481960  rbx: 0x00007fc690481960  rcx: 0x00007fc690481960  rdx: 0x00007fff8eefe18f
  rdi: 0x00007fc690481960  rsi: 0x00007fff8eefa08f  rbp: 0x00007fff5df86bd0  rsp: 0x00007fff5df86ab8
   r8: 0x00007fff8eec8018   r9: 0x00007fff5df86832  r10: 0x00007fff8eefa08f  r11: 0x41019d125a07c4c6
  r12: 0x00007fff87710080  r13: 0x0000000000000018  r14: 0x00007fc6907b58e0  r15: 0x00007fc693158000
  rip: 0x00007fff87710097  rfl: 0x0000000000010246  cr2: 0x0000000101ef7000
  
Logical CPU:     0
Error Code:      0x00000000
Trap Number:     13


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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Thu May 15 17:49:03 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 11:49:03 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop crash
In-Reply-To: <9000D465-F8A1-4ABA-9EEF-F78ACC459A56@meinrechtsanwalt.com>
References: <9000D465-F8A1-4ABA-9EEF-F78ACC459A56@meinrechtsanwalt.com>
Message-ID: <75E32809-C125-49BF-935B-0C2EC320D2B5@wideopenwest.com>



> On May 15, 2014, at 11:09 AM, RA Friedrich Vosberg <fv at meinrechtsanwalt.com> wrote:
> 
> This crash of TeXShop has occurred when I?ve opened a TEX file in Devonthink Pro Office by command open file with ?
> 
> Hope that helps. Kind regards, Friedrich
> 
> Process:         TeXShop [10847]
> Path:            /Applications/TeX/TeXShop.app/Contents/MacOS/TeXShop
> Identifier:      TeXShop
> Version:         3.18 (3.18)
> Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
> Parent Process:  launchd [4214]
> Responsible:     TeXShop [10847]
> User ID:         501
> 
> Date/Time:       2014-05-15 17:07:35.439 +0200
> OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C1021)
> Report Version:  11
> Anonymous UUID:  49EC125A-A858-1B5D-5F72-65736EDE7989
> 
> Sleep/Wake UUID: E5BA75D5-866B-4091-8918-EC9A65F99266
> 
> Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 
> Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
> Exception Codes: EXC_I386_GPFLT
> 
> Application Specific Information:
> objc_msgSend() selector name: respondsToSelector:
> ...

Howdy,

One thing I noticed is that you are using TeXShop 3.18. It's up to version 3.36 now and, by using ARC, I haven't been able to make it crash. 

Good Luck,
Herb Schulz

From gray at psu.edu  Thu May 15 18:10:09 2014
From: gray at psu.edu (Gary L. Gray)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 12:10:09 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36 update.
In-Reply-To: <D53E4BEB-3F8C-445F-9E5E-B1BC0E4D70D1@wideopenwest.com>
References: <mailman.3.1400094000.82014.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <0C12CF67-826B-48B3-A88C-70CF04DBBC81@gmail.com>
 <C5AAC6D6-4CA1-4B9D-8E72-2F26CAF29C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <D2965E46-52D1-4C03-878E-AD37B3FC5007@psu.edu>
 <D53E4BEB-3F8C-445F-9E5E-B1BC0E4D70D1@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <94270182-CE17-4C84-928D-5279329A25B3@psu.edu>

On May 15, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> On May 14, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Gary L. Gray <gray at psu.edu> wrote:
> 
>> On May 14, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Simple... If you downloaded it or used Sparkle before that message arrived you should download it (can't use Sparkle) again. :-)
>>> 
>>> If you are willing to look inside the application there is another thing that will tell you. But that is not for the squeamish. Let me know and I'll tell you.
>> 
>> I think the point is that if the app changes, the version number should change so that the update mechanism will prompt people to download the new version. This should *always* happen, without exception, no matter how minor the update. It could have become 3.36.1, for example. This is essential for the average shmoe, of which there are many, including me.
>> 
>> Gary
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Didn't mean any offence with my comment; added the smiley just for that reason. In any case Dick Koch answered better.

No problem. None taken. :-) I am just commenting on a common practice with TeXShop that leaves my uneasy. That is, it was directed at Dick. :-)

Gary

From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Thu May 15 18:11:53 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 11:11:53 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop crash
In-Reply-To: <75E32809-C125-49BF-935B-0C2EC320D2B5@wideopenwest.com>
References: <9000D465-F8A1-4ABA-9EEF-F78ACC459A56@meinrechtsanwalt.com>
 <75E32809-C125-49BF-935B-0C2EC320D2B5@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <3B22329B-7134-41FB-B58E-817040C631DC@wideopenwest.com>


On May 15, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Herb Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2014, at 11:09 AM, RA Friedrich Vosberg <fv at meinrechtsanwalt.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This crash of TeXShop has occurred when I?ve opened a TEX file in Devonthink Pro Office by command open file with ?
>> 
>> Hope that helps. Kind regards, Friedrich
>> 
>> Process:         TeXShop [10847]
>> Path:            /Applications/TeX/TeXShop.app/Contents/MacOS/TeXShop
>> Identifier:      TeXShop
>> Version:         3.18 (3.18)
>> Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
>> Parent Process:  launchd [4214]
>> Responsible:     TeXShop [10847]
>> User ID:         501
>> 
>> Date/Time:       2014-05-15 17:07:35.439 +0200
>> OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C1021)
>> Report Version:  11
>> Anonymous UUID:  49EC125A-A858-1B5D-5F72-65736EDE7989
>> 
>> Sleep/Wake UUID: E5BA75D5-866B-4091-8918-EC9A65F99266
>> 
>> Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>> 
>> Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
>> Exception Codes: EXC_I386_GPFLT
>> 
>> Application Specific Information:
>> objc_msgSend() selector name: respondsToSelector:
>> ...
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> One thing I noticed is that you are using TeXShop 3.18. It's up to version 3.36 now and, by using ARC, I haven't been able to make it crash. 
> 
> Good Luck,
> Herb Schulz

Howdy,

I should have mentioned that ARC is Automatic Reference Control and it's a technology built into XCode.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From murrayeisenberg at gmail.com  Thu May 15 21:31:40 2014
From: murrayeisenberg at gmail.com (Murray Eisenberg)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 15:31:40 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 3.36 update.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1400180401.47809.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
References: <mailman.3.1400180401.47809.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <92B6A07E-6246-4BBE-A7E3-846136416C25@gmail.com>

Herb,

I'm not in the least bit squeamish about such things.

Murray

On Wed, 14 May 2014 15:46:30 -0500, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> To: List TeX on Mac OS X Mailing <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> 
> On May 14, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> If there's no difference in version number, and no build number or date/time, how exactly is one supposed to know whether, at the time of last update, via Sparkle or otherwise, one got the most recent version?
>> 
>> (Issuing multiple, different versions of software with the same version numbers should surely risk consigning one to one of the circles of Hell?)
>> 
>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:50:23 -0500, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you downloaded and installed TeXShop 3.36 either via Sparkle update or download from Dick Koch's site, <http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html> there is an updated version available at the site. You can't use Sparkle to update since the version number hasn't changed so go to the site and download it.
>>> 
> 
> Simple... If you downloaded it or used Sparkle before that message arrived you should download it (can't use Sparkle) again. :-)
> 
> If you are willing to look inside the application there is another thing that will tell you. But that is not for the squeamish. Let me know and I'll tell you.

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From toke_knudsen at mac.com  Fri May 16 15:46:11 2014
From: toke_knudsen at mac.com (Toke Knudsen)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:46:11 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Trim size, 6 by 9, for book manuscript
Message-ID: <4E7F2D3D-16D0-47F0-B23F-6F153BAD18F3@mac.com>

Hi all,

My book manuscript is almost complete, but the publisher tells me that the book is supposed to be sized to a 6-by-9 trim size.

My preamble is as below.  I don?t believe this gives me the trim size needed.  However, I?m not sure how to correct it.  Is there an easy way to achieve the necessary trim size for my manuscript?

All best wishes,
Toke


=====

%%!TEX TS-program = latex


\documentclass[11pt]{book}

\pagestyle{myheadings}

\usepackage{makeidx}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{wasysym}
\usepackage{epic,eepic}
\usepackage{pstricks}
\usepackage{pst-tree}
\usepackage{dev}
\usepackage{chicago}

\usepackage{tocloft}

\input{newenvironments}

\makeatletter
\newcommand\Nopagebreak{\@nobreaktrue\nopagebreak}
\makeatother

\makeindex

\renewcommand{\cite}{\citeNP}

\begin{document}



From will.adams at frycomm.com  Fri May 16 15:57:32 2014
From: will.adams at frycomm.com (William Adams)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:57:32 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Trim size, 6 by 9, for book manuscript
In-Reply-To: <4E7F2D3D-16D0-47F0-B23F-6F153BAD18F3@mac.com>
References: <4E7F2D3D-16D0-47F0-B23F-6F153BAD18F3@mac.com>
Message-ID: <DCECBC2B-9CCE-4361-BD4B-B0AC4E1297DB@frycomm.com>

On May 16, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Toke Knudsen wrote:

> My book manuscript is almost complete, but the publisher tells me that the book is supposed to be sized to a 6-by-9 trim size.
> 
> My preamble is as below.  I don?t believe this gives me the trim size needed.  However, I?m not sure how to correct it.  Is there an easy way to achieve the necessary trim size for my manuscript?

\usepackage[paperwidth=6in,paperheight=9in]{geometry}

See the excellent documentation for anything else.

William

-- 
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.



From toke_knudsen at mac.com  Fri May 16 16:06:28 2014
From: toke_knudsen at mac.com (Toke Knudsen)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:06:28 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Trim size, 6 by 9, for book manuscript
In-Reply-To: <DCECBC2B-9CCE-4361-BD4B-B0AC4E1297DB@frycomm.com>
References: <4E7F2D3D-16D0-47F0-B23F-6F153BAD18F3@mac.com>
 <DCECBC2B-9CCE-4361-BD4B-B0AC4E1297DB@frycomm.com>
Message-ID: <09F14C4E-62AD-4040-954F-737903046C57@mac.com>

That was easy.  Thanks, William!

All best,
Toke



On May 16, 2014, at 9:57 AM, William Adams <will.adams at frycomm.com> wrote:

> On May 16, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Toke Knudsen wrote:
> 
>> My book manuscript is almost complete, but the publisher tells me that the book is supposed to be sized to a 6-by-9 trim size.
>> 
>> My preamble is as below.  I don?t believe this gives me the trim size needed.  However, I?m not sure how to correct it.  Is there an easy way to achieve the necessary trim size for my manuscript?
> 
> \usepackage[paperwidth=6in,paperheight=9in]{geometry}
> 
> See the excellent documentation for anything else.
> 
> William
> 
> -- 
> William Adams
> senior graphic designer
> Fry Communications
> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
> 
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Fri May 16 18:25:05 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:25:05 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
Message-ID: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>

Howdy,

I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.

I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.

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Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)




From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Fri May 16 19:02:47 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 12:02:47 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <3F7F9BCD-AE42-4C2F-8534-A90BD6ACC764@wideopenwest.com>


On May 16, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
> 
> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
> 
> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

A few more details. With the Preview window active I occasionally get the message

TeXShop got an error: Can?t get alias (file ":.tex").

on execution of the macro. (The macro should work if any of the Source, Preview or Console window is active.) If I then switch to the Source window it works. I get the spinning beachball if the file is in a directory with quite a few other files and folders (~100); no beach ball and things go quickly in directories with low population.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sat May 17 02:06:23 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 17:06:23 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>


On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
> 
> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
> 
> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
> 

I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.

Michael


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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 17 04:29:06 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:29:06 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>


On May 16, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
>> 
>> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
>> 
>> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
>> 
> 
> I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.
> 
> Michael

Howdy,

This is AMAZING! I had to add the .gz to the end of synctex in the list but it's really amazingly fast and accurate. Thanks!!!

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 17 04:41:22 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:41:22 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>


On May 16, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
>>> 
>>> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
>>> 
>>> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
>>> 
>> 
>> I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.
>> 
>> Michael
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> This is AMAZING! I had to add the .gz to the end of synctex in the list but it's really amazingly fast and accurate. Thanks!!!
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

Actually had to add .gz* to the end of synctex in the list! If you abort you get a .synctex.gx(busy) extension and rm hates the (! :-)

This works amazingly well!

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 17 04:49:39 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:49:39 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>


On May 16, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> 
>>>> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
>>>> 
>>>> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
>>>> 
>>>> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.
>>> 
>>> Michael
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> This is AMAZING! I had to add the .gz to the end of synctex in the list but it's really amazingly fast and accurate. Thanks!!!
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Actually had to add .gz* to the end of synctex in the list! If you abort you get a .synctex.gx(busy) extension and rm hates the (! :-)
> 
> This works amazingly well!
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

Sigh... and one more thing. I deleted the section that calls TextEdit. It seemed to open TextEdit no matter what was happening and the dialog box never opened to give me a choice.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sat May 17 05:29:32 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 20:29:32 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>


On May 16, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> This is AMAZING! I had to add the .gz to the end of synctex in the list but it's really amazingly fast and accurate. Thanks!!!
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> 
>>> Herb Schulz
>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Actually had to add .gz* to the end of synctex in the list! If you abort you get a .synctex.gx(busy) extension and rm hates the (! :-)
>> 
>> This works amazingly well!
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Sigh... and one more thing. I deleted the section that calls TextEdit. It seemed to open TextEdit no matter what was happening and the dialog box never opened to give me a choice.
> 

The attached version includes the change in the extension list from "synctex" to "synctex.gz*" and fixes a problem with fspec when delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. I also deleted a repeated "fls" which was not causing problems except for some puzzlement about repetitions in the list of files to be deleted. I'll look more carefully at the TextEdit problem tomorrow. I would have used TeXShop but for the added complications with its "open" command in "--applescript direct" mode.

Michael


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From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Sat May 17 06:33:52 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 00:33:52 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Indexing italicized words
Message-ID: <E0A2F120-BC5D-48D1-B775-5CD883778522@gmail.com>

\index{word} places word in the index with the other w words but  
\index{\emph{word}} places it up front with the symbols. Is it me or  
is it makeindex missing the point? A workaround would be nice but this  
is really my being curious.

Amused regards
--schremmer


From yomcat at yomcat.geek.nz  Sat May 17 06:39:26 2014
From: yomcat at yomcat.geek.nz (Michael Welsh)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 16:39:26 +1200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Indexing italicized words
In-Reply-To: <E0A2F120-BC5D-48D1-B775-5CD883778522@gmail.com>
References: <E0A2F120-BC5D-48D1-B775-5CD883778522@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F83FF73E-632C-41E5-9191-74789761ADEC@yomcat.geek.nz>

On 17/05/2014, at 1633, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> \index{word} places word in the index with the other w words but \index{\emph{word}} places it up front with the symbols. Is it me or is it makeindex missing the point? A workaround would be nice but this is really my being curious.
> 
> Amused regards
> --schremmer


Use \index{word@\emph{word}}. The "@" modifier tells Makeindex how to sort items. This is also useful with maths and other macros.

From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Sat May 17 06:48:08 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 00:48:08 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Indexing italicized words
In-Reply-To: <F83FF73E-632C-41E5-9191-74789761ADEC@yomcat.geek.nz>
References: <E0A2F120-BC5D-48D1-B775-5CD883778522@gmail.com>
 <F83FF73E-632C-41E5-9191-74789761ADEC@yomcat.geek.nz>
Message-ID: <2E3A5CC9-EA15-479A-A303-97FCEF4905CE@gmail.com>


On May 17, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Michael Welsh wrote:

> On 17/05/2014, at 1633, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>>
>> \index{word} places word in the index with the other w words but  
>> \index{\emph{word}} places it up front with the symbols. Is it me  
>> or is it makeindex missing the point? A workaround would be nice  
>> but this is really my being curious.
>>
>> Amused regards
>> --schremmer
>
>
> Use \index{word@\emph{word}}. The "@" modifier tells Makeindex how  
> to sort items. This is also useful with maths and other macros.

TeX is incredible and so is this list.

Grateful regards
--schremmer


From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 17 14:00:00 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 07:00:00 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>


On May 16, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael
>>>> 
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> 
>>>> This is AMAZING! I had to add the .gz to the end of synctex in the list but it's really amazingly fast and accurate. Thanks!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Good Luck,
>>>> 
>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> Actually had to add .gz* to the end of synctex in the list! If you abort you get a .synctex.gx(busy) extension and rm hates the (! :-)
>>> 
>>> This works amazingly well!
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> 
>>> Herb Schulz
>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Sigh... and one more thing. I deleted the section that calls TextEdit. It seemed to open TextEdit no matter what was happening and the dialog box never opened to give me a choice.
>> 
> 
> The attached version includes the change in the extension list from "synctex" to "synctex.gz*" and fixes a problem with fspec when delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. I also deleted a repeated "fls" which was not causing problems except for some puzzlement about repetitions in the list of files to be deleted. I'll look more carefully at the TextEdit problem tomorrow. I would have used TeXShop but for the added complications with its "open" command in "--applescript direct" mode.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> <DeleteAux.plist>

Howdy,

Must admit I've never used delete_files_only_with_smae_name set to false! :-)

I attach my fudged up version with all the TextEdit commented out and the duplicate fls removed.

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Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 17 16:55:05 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 09:55:05 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
 <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <ED355644-53AE-4625-803A-F1E4CBA9BD91@wideopenwest.com>


On May 17, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is AMAZING! I had to add the .gz to the end of synctex in the list but it's really amazingly fast and accurate. Thanks!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good Luck,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>>> 
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually had to add .gz* to the end of synctex in the list! If you abort you get a .synctex.gx(busy) extension and rm hates the (! :-)
>>>> 
>>>> This works amazingly well!
>>>> 
>>>> Good Luck,
>>>> 
>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> Sigh... and one more thing. I deleted the section that calls TextEdit. It seemed to open TextEdit no matter what was happening and the dialog box never opened to give me a choice.
>>> 
>> 
>> The attached version includes the change in the extension list from "synctex" to "synctex.gz*" and fixes a problem with fspec when delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. I also deleted a repeated "fls" which was not causing problems except for some puzzlement about repetitions in the list of files to be deleted. I'll look more carefully at the TextEdit problem tomorrow. I would have used TeXShop but for the added complications with its "open" command in "--applescript direct" mode.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> <DeleteAux.plist>
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Must admit I've never used delete_files_only_with_smae_name set to false! :-)
> 
> I attach my fudged up version with all the TextEdit commented out and the duplicate fls removed.
> 
> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

Discovered that the "run" extension should be changed to "run.xml". It's a file generated by the glossaries package when using the biber back-end.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 17 17:08:57 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 10:08:57 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <ED355644-53AE-4625-803A-F1E4CBA9BD91@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
 <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>
 <ED355644-53AE-4625-803A-F1E4CBA9BD91@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <AD4D177A-F0CE-40DA-BDAC-A9F9EDC879B1@wideopenwest.com>


On May 17, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> Discovered that the "run" extension should be changed to "run.xml". It's a file generated by the glossaries package when using the biber back-end.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

That should be created by the biblatex package and with either bibtex or biber.

Enclosed is a copy of what I'm using with your changes as well as all of my changes.

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Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)




From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Sat May 17 20:40:11 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:40:11 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Indexing italicized words
In-Reply-To: <F83FF73E-632C-41E5-9191-74789761ADEC@yomcat.geek.nz>
References: <E0A2F120-BC5D-48D1-B775-5CD883778522@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9B724B5C-384D-4C89-B7E5-40DC994ABF84@gmail.com>

@Welsh:
It occurred to me that my thanks to *you* could have been more  
explicit than my "Grateful regards". My only excuse is that it was  
getting late but my gratefulness was real.

Grateful regards
--schremmer


On May 17, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Michael Welsh wrote:

> On 17/05/2014, at 1633, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>>
>> \index{word} places word in the index with the other w words but  
>> \index{\emph{word}} places it up front with the symbols. Is it me  
>> or is it makeindex missing the point? A workaround would be nice  
>> but this is really my being curious.
>>
>> Amused regards
>> --schremmer
>
>
> Use \index{word@\emph{word}}. The "@" modifier tells Makeindex how  
> to sort items. This is also useful with maths and other macros.
>
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From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sat May 17 20:53:42 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 11:53:42 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
 <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <F706C7A8-8309-4FBC-99BB-B6F86330E2B2@ucsd.edu>


On May 17, 2014, at 5:00 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is AMAZING! I had to add the .gz to the end of synctex in the list but it's really amazingly fast and accurate. Thanks!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good Luck,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>>> 
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually had to add .gz* to the end of synctex in the list! If you abort you get a .synctex.gx(busy) extension and rm hates the (! :-)
>>>> 
>>>> This works amazingly well!
>>>> 
>>>> Good Luck,
>>>> 
>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> Sigh... and one more thing. I deleted the section that calls TextEdit. It seemed to open TextEdit no matter what was happening and the dialog box never opened to give me a choice.
>>> 
>> 
>> The attached version includes the change in the extension list from "synctex" to "synctex.gz*" and fixes a problem with fspec when delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. I also deleted a repeated "fls" which was not causing problems except for some puzzlement about repetitions in the list of files to be deleted. I'll look more carefully at the TextEdit problem tomorrow. I would have used TeXShop but for the added complications with its "open" command in "--applescript direct" mode.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> <DeleteAux.plist>
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Must admit I've never used delete_files_only_with_smae_name set to false! :-)
> 
> I attach my fudged up version with all the TextEdit commented out and the duplicate fls removed.
> 
> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
> 
I tried without success to replicate the problem you described with TextEdit always opening to show the files to delete. The code says to do this when there are 20 or more such files, which should happen only if delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. So, I've left in my newest version, which also includes more error handling for some conditions, and activates TeXShop after opening TextEdit so that the dialog box isn't hidden by another window. Also, just in case someone sets delete_files_only_with_same_name to false, I've deleted "pdf" from the extensions_to_delete list, as that could result in deletion of some of your graphic inclusions. It may make sense to split this into two separate macros, one for "same name" and one for "all in same folder".

Michael


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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sun May 18 15:21:36 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 08:21:36 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <F706C7A8-8309-4FBC-99BB-B6F86330E2B2@ucsd.edu>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
 <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>
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Message-ID: <9E963450-695A-4B81-9C8C-030B08DC6C58@wideopenwest.com>


On May 17, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> I tried without success to replicate the problem you described with TextEdit always opening to show the files to delete. The code says to do this when there are 20 or more such files, which should happen only if delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. So, I've left in my newest version, which also includes more error handling for some conditions, and activates TeXShop after opening TextEdit so that the dialog box isn't hidden by another window. Also, just in case someone sets delete_files_only_with_same_name to false, I've deleted "pdf" from the extensions_to_delete list, as that could result in deletion of some of your graphic inclusions. It may make sense to split this into two separate macros, one for "same name" and one for "all in same folder".
> 
> Michael

Howdy,

Hmmm... seems like the version you attached was one of my older versions rather than the one you updated.

In any case I found a bug. If the file name and/or the path, has spaces in the name it won't work. I don't know how to add quotes around the file and path in those cases. I don't, in general, do that but in this case the spaces were actually needed.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sun May 18 16:26:08 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 09:26:08 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <9E963450-695A-4B81-9C8C-030B08DC6C58@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
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Message-ID: <00371092-A8F9-4644-9CEB-4532B4F53AB5@wideopenwest.com>


On May 18, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 17, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
>> I tried without success to replicate the problem you described with TextEdit always opening to show the files to delete. The code says to do this when there are 20 or more such files, which should happen only if delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. So, I've left in my newest version, which also includes more error handling for some conditions, and activates TeXShop after opening TextEdit so that the dialog box isn't hidden by another window. Also, just in case someone sets delete_files_only_with_same_name to false, I've deleted "pdf" from the extensions_to_delete list, as that could result in deletion of some of your graphic inclusions. It may make sense to split this into two separate macros, one for "same name" and one for "all in same folder".
>> 
>> Michael
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Hmmm... seems like the version you attached was one of my older versions rather than the one you updated.
> 
> In any case I found a bug. If the file name and/or the path, has spaces in the name it won't work. I don't know how to add quotes around the file and path in those cases. I don't, in general, do that but in this case the spaces were actually needed.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

Checking more carefully it's only root file names with spaces that give the problem.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sun May 18 18:10:31 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 09:10:31 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <9E963450-695A-4B81-9C8C-030B08DC6C58@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
 <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>
 <F706C7A8-8309-4FBC-99BB-B6F86330E2B2@ucsd.edu>
 <9E963450-695A-4B81-9C8C-030B08DC6C58@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <368BF82D-3914-4910-AFEB-E76BD386EA3D@ucsd.edu>


On May 18, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 17, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
>> I tried without success to replicate the problem you described with TextEdit always opening to show the files to delete. The code says to do this when there are 20 or more such files, which should happen only if delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. So, I've left in my newest version, which also includes more error handling for some conditions, and activates TeXShop after opening TextEdit so that the dialog box isn't hidden by another window. Also, just in case someone sets delete_files_only_with_same_name to false, I've deleted "pdf" from the extensions_to_delete list, as that could result in deletion of some of your graphic inclusions. It may make sense to split this into two separate macros, one for "same name" and one for "all in same folder".
>> 
>> Michael
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Hmmm... seems like the version you attached was one of my older versions rather than the one you updated.
> 
> In any case I found a bug. If the file name and/or the path, has spaces in the name it won't work. I don't know how to add quotes around the file and path in those cases. I don't, in general, do that but in this case the spaces were actually needed.
> 

I changed "run" to "run.xml" in extensions_to_delete and added code that works with filenames having embedded spaces. This time I'm attaching the correct file.

Michael


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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sun May 18 18:33:20 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 11:33:20 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <368BF82D-3914-4910-AFEB-E76BD386EA3D@ucsd.edu>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
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On May 18, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> 
> I changed "run" to "run.xml" in extensions_to_delete and added code that works with filenames having embedded spaces. This time I'm attaching the correct file.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> <DeleteAux.plist>

Howdy,

Works as advertised! Thanks very much.

I couldn't pick out what you changed to quote the file names.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From eric.vanderoord at gmail.com  Sun May 18 19:04:50 2014
From: eric.vanderoord at gmail.com (Eric van der Oord)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 19:04:50 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <368BF82D-3914-4910-AFEB-E76BD386EA3D@ucsd.edu>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
 <28A3571E-ED75-450A-8904-BE81798BC91C@wideopenwest.com>
 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
 <FA88F733-4D3E-46E5-96BE-A166EBA0A422@wideopenwest.com>
 <F706C7A8-8309-4FBC-99BB-B6F86330E2B2@ucsd.edu>
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Message-ID: <8F5B2395-8B27-4774-9572-EDD2CD687F86@gmail.com>

Beginners question : Why are the files attached in this thread "plist" files and not "scpt" files ?


Best Regards

Eric

Le 18 mai 2014 ? 18:10, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> a ?crit :

> 
> On May 18, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> I tried without success to replicate the problem you described with TextEdit always opening to show the files to delete. The code says to do this when there are 20 or more such files, which should happen only if delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. So, I've left in my newest version, which also includes more error handling for some conditions, and activates TeXShop after opening TextEdit so that the dialog box isn't hidden by another window. Also, just in case someone sets delete_files_only_with_same_name to false, I've deleted "pdf" from the extensions_to_delete list, as that could result in deletion of some of your graphic inclusions. It may make sense to split this into two separate macros, one for "same name" and one for "all in same folder".
>>> 
>>> Michael
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Hmmm... seems like the version you attached was one of my older versions rather than the one you updated.
>> 
>> In any case I found a bug. If the file name and/or the path, has spaces in the name it won't work. I don't know how to add quotes around the file and path in those cases. I don't, in general, do that but in this case the spaces were actually needed.
>> 
> 
> I changed "run" to "run.xml" in extensions_to_delete and added code that works with filenames having embedded spaces. This time I'm attaching the correct file.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> <DeleteAux.plist>
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sun May 18 19:30:04 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 12:30:04 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <8F5B2395-8B27-4774-9572-EDD2CD687F86@gmail.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
 <3B294266-089E-4106-B90B-A9E19D45CD1D@ucsd.edu>
 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
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 <6BD4564E-CA8D-4229-A471-A1782E163C9C@wideopenwest.com>
 <7A9A8455-CB98-4A44-BBCB-689A728D64C5@ucsd.edu>
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On May 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Eric van der Oord <eric.vanderoord at gmail.com> wrote:

> Beginners question : Why are the files attached in this thread "plist" files and not "scpt" files ?
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Eric
> 
> Le 18 mai 2014 ? 18:10, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> a ?crit :
> 
>> 
>> On May 18, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 17, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I tried without success to replicate the problem you described with TextEdit always opening to show the files to delete. The code says to do this when there are 20 or more such files, which should happen only if delete_files_only_with_same_name is set to false. So, I've left in my newest version, which also includes more error handling for some conditions, and activates TeXShop after opening TextEdit so that the dialog box isn't hidden by another window. Also, just in case someone sets delete_files_only_with_same_name to false, I've deleted "pdf" from the extensions_to_delete list, as that could result in deletion of some of your graphic inclusions. It may make sense to split this into two separate macros, one for "same name" and one for "all in same folder".
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> Hmmm... seems like the version you attached was one of my older versions rather than the one you updated.
>>> 
>>> In any case I found a bug. If the file name and/or the path, has spaces in the name it won't work. I don't know how to add quotes around the file and path in those cases. I don't, in general, do that but in this case the spaces were actually needed.
>>> 
>> 
>> I changed "run" to "run.xml" in extensions_to_delete and added code that works with filenames having embedded spaces. This time I'm attaching the correct file.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> <DeleteAux.plist>

Howdy,

TeXShop LaTeX Macros are stored together in a single plist format file that also contains the Macro names and assigned keyboard shortcuts, Macros_Latex.plist, in ~/Library/TeXShop/Macros. Those macros can simply be text substitutions or Applescript files. It is then natural, when exporting/importing a macro from TeXShop for it to also be sent as a plist in the same internal format.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sun May 18 19:57:05 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 10:57:05 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <CC8B9D0E-977E-4950-A83A-117AA199DAD4@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
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 <648E089D-313D-4CE0-B90A-5698041BBEF0@wideopenwest.com>
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Message-ID: <DF90612D-F4C0-46FC-8398-B0F093CAA841@ucsd.edu>


On May 18, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 18, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I changed "run" to "run.xml" in extensions_to_delete and added code that works with filenames having embedded spaces. This time I'm attaching the correct file.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> <DeleteAux.plist>
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Works as advertised! Thanks very much.
> 
> I couldn't pick out what you changed to quote the file names.
> 

The lines

set text item delimiters to space
set ti to (text items of froot)
set text item delimiters to "\\ "
set froot to (ti as text)
set text item delimiters to tid

have the effect of replacing all spaces in froot (the root name of the tex file) with backslash backslash space, so that, after the command reaches the shell, you are left with entries like

name\ with\ spaces.aux

which will be correctly interpreted by unix utilities like ls and rm.

Michael

From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sun May 18 20:05:34 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 13:05:34 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <DF90612D-F4C0-46FC-8398-B0F093CAA841@ucsd.edu>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
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On May 18, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> 
> On May 18, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 18, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I changed "run" to "run.xml" in extensions_to_delete and added code that works with filenames having embedded spaces. This time I'm attaching the correct file.
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <DeleteAux.plist>
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Works as advertised! Thanks very much.
>> 
>> I couldn't pick out what you changed to quote the file names.
>> 
> 
> The lines
> 
> set text item delimiters to space
> set ti to (text items of froot)
> set text item delimiters to "\\ "
> set froot to (ti as text)
> set text item delimiters to tid
> 
> have the effect of replacing all spaces in froot (the root name of the tex file) with backslash backslash space, so that, after the command reaches the shell, you are left with entries like
> 
> name\ with\ spaces.aux
> 
> which will be correctly interpreted by unix utilities like ls and rm.
> 
> Michael

Howdy,

Ahhh... now I see. I was looking for a place where " are placed around the file name.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From murrayeisenberg at gmail.com  Sun May 18 21:45:52 2014
From: murrayeisenberg at gmail.com (Murray Eisenberg)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 15:45:52 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1400353201.49145.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1400353201.49145.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <D6054AA3-9BB0-4CBB-B543-EF19C6ED527E@gmail.com>

What should the name of this .plist file be?

Where exactly does it go? (Somewhere inside TeXShop.app/Contents?  inside ~/Library/Application Support/TeXShop?)

What is the current version of this file and where can one obtain it?

Or is the file already included with the current TeXShop 3.36?

On 16 May 2014 17:06:23 -0700, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> I've used an Applescript Macro in TeXShop to remove auxiliary files for many years. I like it because it's easy to edit and adjust the list of extensions to remove. Unfortunately it is Applescript which, all too often, seems to change syntax. That usually only happens with major OS updates, e.g., OS X 10.8->10.9, but now I'm seeing a problem with my update from OS X 10.9.2->10.9.3. I get a spinning wheel when I execute it and occasionally an error about not finding .tex.
>> 
>> I know we have some Applescript experts on the list and wonder if they could take a look at the macro and see if they can analyse and fix the problem.
>> 
>> <DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist>
>> 
> 
> I've attached my reworking of the macro so that it runs quite fast even in a very large folder with about 3000 files. I can't be sure this fixes the problems you were seeing, as it's possible the update to 10.9.3 affected TeXShop's AppleScript interpreter.
> 
> Michael
> 
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From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sun May 18 23:15:48 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 14:15:48 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <D6054AA3-9BB0-4CBB-B543-EF19C6ED527E@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1400353201.49145.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <D6054AA3-9BB0-4CBB-B543-EF19C6ED527E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <95297728-B319-4F91-B6AD-32E5FA1C5C07@ucsd.edu>


On May 18, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> What should the name of this .plist file be?

I've been using the name DeleteAux.plist and Herb has been using DeleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist. A .plist file name need not indicate its contents, which may be one or more macros, each having a name independent of the name of the .plist.

> 
> Where exactly does it go? (Somewhere inside TeXShop.app/Contents?  inside ~/Library/Application Support/TeXShop?)

Macros are installed in TeXShop's Macros Menu. For basic instructions, see TeXShop->Help->TeXShop Help Panel...->Preliminaries. There is another method you can use which allows you to compare versions of the macros, but requires installation of macrocopier from http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3825336/TeX/index.html.
> 
> What is the current version of this file and where can one obtain it?

The current version is from this morning, dated 5/18/2014, Available from my dropbox site (see above.)
> 
> Or is the file already included with the current TeXShop 3.36?
No.

Michael

From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Mon May 19 02:21:15 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 19:21:15 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <D6054AA3-9BB0-4CBB-B543-EF19C6ED527E@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1400353201.49145.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <D6054AA3-9BB0-4CBB-B543-EF19C6ED527E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EE5537AF-233A-4CC6-BBC2-78C758955070@wideopenwest.com>


On May 18, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> What should the name of this .plist file be?
> 
> Where exactly does it go? (Somewhere inside TeXShop.app/Contents?  inside ~/Library/Application Support/TeXShop?)
> 
> What is the current version of this file and where can one obtain it?
> 
> Or is the file already included with the current TeXShop 3.36?
> 

Howdy,

TeXShop stores ALL of it's LaTeX related macros in a file called Macros_Latex.plist in ~/Library/TeXShop/Macros. (Note: there also is a Macros_Context.plist for Context users but I know nothing about Context.) When you import a macro in a plist file, via the Macro Editor, it gets added to that file.

There is a default version of Macros_Latex.plist that comes with TeXShop but you can add/delete/modify the macros so you end with a completely customized version.

The DeleteAux.plist or even the DEleteAllAuxiliaryFiles.plist files contain sincle macros that can be added to the Macros_Latex.plist file.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Mon May 19 13:18:14 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 06:18:14 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Update to 10.9.3 & Applescript TeXShop Macro
In-Reply-To: <95C69E17-0E7E-45AF-A77C-4D7E201F55FF@wideopenwest.com>
References: <3047A00B-E6FB-4D18-B255-AE809CF22AAB@wideopenwest.com>
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Message-ID: <37BD91C0-CE2C-444C-BDAB-ACC8B68148EB@wideopenwest.com>


On May 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 18, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 18, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 18, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I changed "run" to "run.xml" in extensions_to_delete and added code that works with filenames having embedded spaces. This time I'm attaching the correct file.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <DeleteAux.plist>
>>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> Works as advertised! Thanks very much.
>>> 
>>> I couldn't pick out what you changed to quote the file names.
>>> 
>> 
>> The lines
>> 
>> set text item delimiters to space
>> set ti to (text items of froot)
>> set text item delimiters to "\\ "
>> set froot to (ti as text)
>> set text item delimiters to tid
>> 
>> have the effect of replacing all spaces in froot (the root name of the tex file) with backslash backslash space, so that, after the command reaches the shell, you are left with entries like
>> 
>> name\ with\ spaces.aux
>> 
>> which will be correctly interpreted by unix utilities like ls and rm.
>> 
>> Michael
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Ahhh... now I see. I was looking for a place where " are placed around the file name.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

Sigh... just ran into a file with a root name that contained ( and ); rm doesn't like that.

Is there a way to surround each of the file names in the final list to delete with double quotes? That would solve all of these quirks at once.

Sorry to keep noticing these niggling things.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From toke_knudsen at mac.com  Mon May 19 15:16:22 2014
From: toke_knudsen at mac.com (Toke Knudsen)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 09:16:22 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Question on scaling
Message-ID: <A659FE8B-35AD-4143-9470-A0253BD21065@mac.com>

Hi all,

For a book manuscript that I?m finalizing, I use eepic to generate figures; I?ve included an example of such a figure below.  After changing the dimensions of the book to the one the publisher wants, I find that many of the figures are now too large; they need to be scaled down.

I tried \scalebox, but that doesn?t seem to work (or at least I can?t get it to work).  Is there any way that such figures could be scaled in order to avoid having to redo many of them?

Many thanks in advance.

All best wishes,
Toke


=====

Hi Keith,

I?m using eepic to generate my figures, so it?s not \includegraphics that I use.  An example of a figure is the following:

=====
\begin{figure}
\begin{center}
 \begin{picture}(240,180)(0,0)
  \drawline(0,0)(240,0)(240,180)(0,180)(0,0)
  \put(80,90){\circle*{6}} % The gnomon, G
  \put(69,94){$G$}
  \put(160,90){\circle*{3}} % Tip of the shadow, A
  \put(164,91){$A$}
  \put(80,90){\circle{120}}
  \put(160,90){\circle{120}}
  \put(120,134.721359549996){\circle*{3}} % The point B
  \put(117,140){$B$}
  \put(120,45.27864045){\circle*{3}} % The point C
  \put(117,33){$C$}
  \dottedline{1}(120,134.721359549996)(120,45.27864045) % Connecting B and C
  \Thicklines
  \drawline(80,90)(160,90) % The shadow
 \end{picture}
\caption{Determining the east-west and north-south lines.}\label{gnomon_eastwest_northsouth}
\end{center}
\end{figure}

From lfsequeira at gmail.com  Mon May 19 21:23:27 2014
From: lfsequeira at gmail.com (Luis Sequeira)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:23:27 +0100
Subject: [OS X TeX] Question on scaling
Message-ID: <5A377AAB-03A9-4AD1-A450-020B104FF7E2@gmail.com>


For me, the \drawline command does not work - it may require a specific package, which I don?t know (please remember in the future to provide a minimal compilable example) - but anyway after commenting out the two \drawline commands I got to typeset and see a picture.

Then I tried \scalebox with your code, this way:

\scalebox{0.25}{\begin{picture}?\end{picture}}

and it worked as expected, scaling the picture down.
Maybe you put the \scalebox enclosing the whole \begin{figure}?. \end{figure}? That would probably not work.

Luis Sequeira



From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Tue May 20 19:00:28 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 17:00:28 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] go-to-page command in preview?
Message-ID: <CFA0D838.2AAD8%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>

Hi,
I am wondering whether such a command exists (since it?s not in the menu, I doubt, but who knows). Then I could assign shortcut, etc. Currently the only way I know of is to navigate to the appropriate place in the ribbon (with the mouse or several tabs) and enter page number there. (Then get back to the main page to be able to navigate with arrow keys, space bar, etc.)
For those familiar with Acrobat, there the default shortcut is Ctrl-Shft N.
Thank you.
Nicolae

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From justin at mac.com  Tue May 20 21:26:15 2014
From: justin at mac.com (Justin C. Walker)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 12:26:15 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] go-to-page command in preview?
In-Reply-To: <CFA0D838.2AAD8%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
References: <CFA0D838.2AAD8%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <CD8F49B4-A11C-4AC2-AAED-47642D18FE16@mac.com>


On May 20, 2014, at 10:00 , Nicolae Garleanu wrote:

> Hi,
> I am wondering whether such a command exists (since it?s not in the menu, I doubt, but who knows). 

You do mean the "built-in" OS X app Preview.app, correct?

On my systems (10.6.8, 10.9.3), Preview has a "Go" menu, with a Go-to-page option, with shortcut CMD-OPT-G.  Is this different from what you want?

HTH

Justin

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From jjtorrens at unavarra.es  Wed May 21 01:40:56 2014
From: jjtorrens at unavarra.es (=?windows-1252?Q?Juan_Jos=E9_Torrens?=)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 01:40:56 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Question on scaling
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4.1400612401.43923.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
References: <mailman.4.1400612401.43923.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <537BE808.90602@unavarra.es>

Hi,

You can simply set up \unitlength right before every picture environment 
which needs to be scaled down. For example, with the code

\setlength{\unitlength}{0.8pt}
\begin{picture}(240,180)(0,0)
[your code here]
\end{picture}

the size of the drawing will be the 80% of the original one. Please note 
that, by default, \unitlenght=1pt.

Best wishes

Juanjo

> Asunto:[OS X TeX] Question on scaling
> De: Toke Knudsen <toke_knudsen at mac.com>
> Fecha: 19/05/14 15:16
> Para: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Hi all,
>
> For a book manuscript that I?m finalizing, I use eepic to generate figures; I?ve included an example of such a figure below.  After changing the dimensions of the book to the one the publisher wants, I find that many of the figures are now too large; they need to be scaled down.
>
> I tried \scalebox, but that doesn?t seem to work (or at least I can?t get it to work).  Is there any way that such figures could be scaled in order to avoid having to redo many of them?
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> All best wishes,
> Toke
>


From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Wed May 21 20:14:35 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:14:35 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Silent Updates and TeXShop 3.36.1
Message-ID: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>

Folks,

Sometimes I discover a bug in TeXShop an hour after a new release. In the past I?ve responded
by fixing the bug ?silently? without changing the version number, in hopes that most downloads
will contain the fixed version.

From now on, I?ll create a new version number of TeXShop with an added digit. For example,
version 3.35.1 would be a corrected version of version 3.35. The Sparkle update mechanism will notice
this change and report that a new version is available.

When I make a minor change of this sort, I won?t update any ?change documents? and won't
update ?About This Release.? The only spot in the TeXShop web pages to indicate a minor release will
be the initial page http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html, which will show the full version
number of the latest release.

As a test of all this, I just released TeXShop 3.36.1. This version deserves to be called 3.37 since it fixes
a real bug, but then we?d have no test of the new mechanism.

Here?s the bug: Several users pointed out that in recent versions of TeXShop, the command-1 shortcut
to switch between the Preview and Source windows works initially and then eventually stops working.
I was never able to reproduce this bug until Santiago Ontanon discovered that the bug is triggered
by closing, and then reopening, the Preview Window. Thanks, Santiago!

Dick Koch

From vic at norton.name  Wed May 21 20:35:45 2014
From: vic at norton.name (Vic Norton)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:35:45 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Silent Updates and TeXShop 3.36.1
In-Reply-To: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <C9011D87-C6DA-4E38-9E6B-DC3826705761@norton.name>


On May 21, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> As a test of all this, I just released TeXShop 3.36.1. This version deserves to be called 3.37 since it fixes a real bug, but then we?d have no test of the new mechanism.

It worked for me. Thanks!  - Vic

From juantolo at me.com  Wed May 21 23:36:01 2014
From: juantolo at me.com (juan tolosa)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:36:01 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Silent Updates and TeXShop 3.36.1
In-Reply-To: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <C3D93B76-858D-497C-8DDB-97BC8CCB0A73@me.com>

I have downoaded TexShop 3.36.1. However, when I double-click on the TeXShop application, it tells me that I am using version 3.18.
How can I in effect replace the old version by the new one?
Thanks,
                 Juan

On May 21, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> Sometimes I discover a bug in TeXShop an hour after a new release. In the past I?ve responded
> by fixing the bug ?silently? without changing the version number, in hopes that most downloads
> will contain the fixed version.
> 
> From now on, I?ll create a new version number of TeXShop with an added digit. For example,
> version 3.35.1 would be a corrected version of version 3.35. The Sparkle update mechanism will notice
> this change and report that a new version is available.
> 
> When I make a minor change of this sort, I won?t update any ?change documents? and won't
> update ?About This Release.? The only spot in the TeXShop web pages to indicate a minor release will
> be the initial page http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html, which will show the full version
> number of the latest release.
> 
> As a test of all this, I just released TeXShop 3.36.1. This version deserves to be called 3.37 since it fixes
> a real bug, but then we?d have no test of the new mechanism.
> 
> Here?s the bug: Several users pointed out that in recent versions of TeXShop, the command-1 shortcut
> to switch between the Preview and Source windows works initially and then eventually stops working.
> I was never able to reproduce this bug until Santiago Ontanon discovered that the bug is triggered
> by closing, and then reopening, the Preview Window. Thanks, Santiago!
> 
> Dick Koch
> 
> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
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> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex



From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Wed May 21 23:45:04 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:45:04 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Silent Updates and TeXShop 3.36.1
In-Reply-To: <C3D93B76-858D-497C-8DDB-97BC8CCB0A73@me.com>
References: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
 <C3D93B76-858D-497C-8DDB-97BC8CCB0A73@me.com>
Message-ID: <5B2BF770-0DA0-4B38-BC5D-357904F791BD@math.uoregon.edu>

Juan,

Did you go to my web site, 

	http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html

I just downloaded from there and got version 3.36.1. I also tested the Sparkle mechanism and
got version 3.36.1.

Dick Koch


On May 21, 2014, at 2:36 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:

> I have downoaded TexShop 3.36.1. However, when I double-click on the TeXShop application, it tells me that I am using version 3.18.
> How can I in effect replace the old version by the new one?
> Thanks,
>                 Juan
> 



From herve.choplin at gmail.com  Wed May 21 23:50:10 2014
From: herve.choplin at gmail.com (=?windows-1252?Q?Herv=E9_CHOPLIN?=)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 23:50:10 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Silent Updates and TeXShop 3.36.1
In-Reply-To: <C3D93B76-858D-497C-8DDB-97BC8CCB0A73@me.com>
References: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
 <C3D93B76-858D-497C-8DDB-97BC8CCB0A73@me.com>
Message-ID: <0D835696-F9F0-478D-AA40-0C0BAF98E131@gmail.com>

The Sparkle update mechanism notice me an update of TeXShop 3.36.1 ;
Update finish and the menu ? About TeXShop ? show the good version 3.36.1

Thank's

Herv? CHOPLIN
3, rue de l'Abbaye de Gastines
37100 TOURS - France
e-mail: herve.choplin at gmail.com

Le 21 mai 2014 ? 23:36, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> a ?crit :

> I have downoaded TexShop 3.36.1. However, when I double-click on the TeXShop application, it tells me that I am using version 3.18.
> How can I in effect replace the old version by the new one?
> Thanks,
>                 Juan
> 
> On May 21, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Sometimes I discover a bug in TeXShop an hour after a new release. In the past I?ve responded
>> by fixing the bug ?silently? without changing the version number, in hopes that most downloads
>> will contain the fixed version.
>> 
>> From now on, I?ll create a new version number of TeXShop with an added digit. For example,
>> version 3.35.1 would be a corrected version of version 3.35. The Sparkle update mechanism will notice
>> this change and report that a new version is available.
>> 
>> When I make a minor change of this sort, I won?t update any ?change documents? and won't
>> update ?About This Release.? The only spot in the TeXShop web pages to indicate a minor release will
>> be the initial page http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html, which will show the full version
>> number of the latest release.
>> 
>> As a test of all this, I just released TeXShop 3.36.1. This version deserves to be called 3.37 since it fixes
>> a real bug, but then we?d have no test of the new mechanism.
>> 
>> Here?s the bug: Several users pointed out that in recent versions of TeXShop, the command-1 shortcut
>> to switch between the Preview and Source windows works initially and then eventually stops working.
>> I was never able to reproduce this bug until Santiago Ontanon discovered that the bug is triggered
>> by closing, and then reopening, the Preview Window. Thanks, Santiago!
>> 
>> Dick Koch
>> 
>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/
>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/
>> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex
> 
> 
> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
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> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/
> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex






From juantolo at me.com  Wed May 21 23:53:33 2014
From: juantolo at me.com (juan tolosa)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:53:33 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Silent Updates and TeXShop 3.36.1
In-Reply-To: <5B2BF770-0DA0-4B38-BC5D-357904F791BD@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
 <C3D93B76-858D-497C-8DDB-97BC8CCB0A73@me.com>
 <5B2BF770-0DA0-4B38-BC5D-357904F791BD@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <1A2FBFDF-5CB2-4E68-B4F3-6C9FD3FB3DB0@me.com>

Dick,
Yes, that is what I did. I have just grabbed the TeXShop Icon from the Downloads folder an moved it to the Applications folder, placed inside the TeX folder. This seems to have done the trick. Now when I ask "about..." I get the info that I am using version 3.36.1.
Thank you,
                     Juan

On May 21, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> Juan,
> 
> Did you go to my web site, 
> 
> 	http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html
> 
> I just downloaded from there and got version 3.36.1. I also tested the Sparkle mechanism and
> got version 3.36.1.
> 
> Dick Koch
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2014, at 2:36 PM, juan tolosa <juantolo at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have downoaded TexShop 3.36.1. However, when I double-click on the TeXShop application, it tells me that I am using version 3.18.
>> How can I in effect replace the old version by the new one?
>> Thanks,
>>                Juan
>> 
> 
> 
> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/
> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/
> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex



From gray at psu.edu  Thu May 22 06:10:23 2014
From: gray at psu.edu (Gary L. Gray)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 00:10:23 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Silent Updates and TeXShop 3.36.1
In-Reply-To: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <4FE1842D-BC1C-4558-BF49-B170055A2D9D@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <A04B7C28-D925-4C44-B4C4-CDFC11E9BC2D@psu.edu>

On May 21, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> Sometimes I discover a bug in TeXShop an hour after a new release. In the past I?ve responded
> by fixing the bug ?silently? without changing the version number, in hopes that most downloads
> will contain the fixed version.
> 
>> From now on, I?ll create a new version number of TeXShop with an added digit. For example,
> version 3.35.1 would be a corrected version of version 3.35. The Sparkle update mechanism will notice
> this change and report that a new version is available.
> 
> When I make a minor change of this sort, I won?t update any ?change documents? and won't
> update ?About This Release.? The only spot in the TeXShop web pages to indicate a minor release will
> be the initial page http://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/texshop/texshop.html, which will show the full version
> number of the latest release.
> 
> As a test of all this, I just released TeXShop 3.36.1. This version deserves to be called 3.37 since it fixes
> a real bug, but then we?d have no test of the new mechanism.
> 
> Here?s the bug: Several users pointed out that in recent versions of TeXShop, the command-1 shortcut
> to switch between the Preview and Source windows works initially and then eventually stops working.
> I was never able to reproduce this bug until Santiago Ontanon discovered that the bug is triggered
> by closing, and then reopening, the Preview Window. Thanks, Santiago!

Thank you Dick. The update came over without a hitch.

Gary



From listwatch at moss.in-berlin.de  Fri May 23 00:47:37 2014
From: listwatch at moss.in-berlin.de (Martin Wilhelm Leidig)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 00:47:37 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Cannot change Tex Distrib. after upgrade to Maverics
In-Reply-To: <218CCCAC-BCB7-400A-92BD-E99B66411957@wideopenwest.com>
References: <49BF0F9E-23A6-4903-AA43-0CB5106B0CFC@free.fr>
 <218CCCAC-BCB7-400A-92BD-E99B66411957@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <F98E50AE-1491-46F3-905B-3C4E63835130@moss.in-berlin.de>

Herb

on 2014-04-22, 19:41 you wrote:
> 
> Sigh... the TeX Distribution Preference Pane is broken under Mavericks. We expect to have a fixed version for MacTeX-2014 which is presently being built and tested. Can't give a release date.
> 
> If you want to go back to TL2012 please get in touch with me off-list. I have a bit of a technical method for fixing that up.

Could you please tell me that method, too?  I have a new MacBook running 10.9.3 and need to be able to run older TL versions when testing my own (La)TeX stuff.  Also, a client asked me for a solution.  Thanks in advance!


Regards from Ladenburg,

-MWL-
-- 
Martin Wilhelm Leidig, SatzTeXnik ? Dante e.V. #1580
Professional TeXing and TeXnical counselling



From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Fri May 23 00:53:22 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 17:53:22 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Cannot change Tex Distrib. after upgrade to Maverics
In-Reply-To: <F98E50AE-1491-46F3-905B-3C4E63835130@moss.in-berlin.de>
References: <49BF0F9E-23A6-4903-AA43-0CB5106B0CFC@free.fr>
 <218CCCAC-BCB7-400A-92BD-E99B66411957@wideopenwest.com>
 <F98E50AE-1491-46F3-905B-3C4E63835130@moss.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <D968442A-36D3-4449-BFA3-5658903F12CE@wideopenwest.com>


On May 22, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Martin Wilhelm Leidig <listwatch at moss.in-berlin.de> wrote:

> Herb
> 
> on 2014-04-22, 19:41 you wrote:
>> 
>> Sigh... the TeX Distribution Preference Pane is broken under Mavericks. We expect to have a fixed version for MacTeX-2014 which is presently being built and tested. Can't give a release date.
>> 
>> If you want to go back to TL2012 please get in touch with me off-list. I have a bit of a technical method for fixing that up.
> 
> Could you please tell me that method, too?  I have a new MacBook running 10.9.3 and need to be able to run older TL versions when testing my own (La)TeX stuff.  Also, a client asked me for a solution.  Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> Regards from Ladenburg,
> 
> -MWL-

Howdy,

What versions of the distribution do you need to switch between?

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From listwatch at moss.in-berlin.de  Fri May 23 09:13:29 2014
From: listwatch at moss.in-berlin.de (Martin Wilhelm Leidig)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 09:13:29 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Cannot change Tex Distrib. after upgrade to Maverics
In-Reply-To: <D968442A-36D3-4449-BFA3-5658903F12CE@wideopenwest.com>
References: <49BF0F9E-23A6-4903-AA43-0CB5106B0CFC@free.fr>
 <218CCCAC-BCB7-400A-92BD-E99B66411957@wideopenwest.com>
 <F98E50AE-1491-46F3-905B-3C4E63835130@moss.in-berlin.de>
 <D968442A-36D3-4449-BFA3-5658903F12CE@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <3E907B6B-659A-428D-B721-644D700BA10B@moss.in-berlin.de>

Good mprning, Herb!

Am 2014-05-23 um 00:53 schrieb Herbert Schulz:
> 
> On May 22, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Martin Wilhelm Leidig <listwatch at moss.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>> on 2014-04-22, 19:41 you wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sigh... the TeX Distribution Preference Pane is broken under Mavericks. We expect to have a fixed version for MacTeX-2014 which is presently being built and tested. Can't give a release date.
>>> 
>>> If you want to go back to TL2012 please get in touch with me off-list. I have a bit of a technical method for fixing that up.
>> 
>> Could you please tell me that method, too?  I have a new MacBook running 10.9.3 and need to be able to run older TL versions when testing my own (La)TeX stuff.  Also, a client asked me for a solution.  Thanks in advance!

--> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/dxes9ktfidr2ps5/Olinol.gif> Sorry.

> What versions of the distribution do you need to switch between?

All of them.  ;-)

Well, 2010--2013 and, if possible, 2014-pretest would be great.  If I understand correctly, one could achieve that by
? re-setting a few symlinks (/usr/texbin, /Library/TeX/Root, /Library/TeX/Documentation, anything else?),
? re-setting a few shell variables (MANPATH, PATH), and
? (probably) initialising the corresponding TeXMF subtree(s), 
right?


Regards from Ladenburg,

-Moss-
-- 
Martin Wilhelm Leidig, SatzTeXnik ? Dante e.V. #1580
Professional TeXing and TeXnical counselling



From fabien.dagnat at telecom-bretagne.eu  Fri May 23 11:32:44 2014
From: fabien.dagnat at telecom-bretagne.eu (Dagnat Fabien)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 11:32:44 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] MacTeX-2014 Pretest
In-Reply-To: <5F5CC953-D0D4-4F4A-A9B4-DBEC27FFC811@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <5F5CC953-D0D4-4F4A-A9B4-DBEC27FFC811@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <E2894EF7-7ED0-4312-9415-F6EDAB3FFA22@telecom-bretagne.eu>

Hello,
Is there a simple way to remove the universal-darwin package to keep only the x86_64 ones once mactex is installed?

Fabien
Le 24 avr. 2014 ? 16:54, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> a ?crit :

> Folks,
> 
> Construction and beta testing of TeX Live 2014 has begun and a 
> test version of MacTeX-2014 is now available. See
> 
> 	https://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html
> 
> Please remember that this is a beta version. You may run into
> problems. 
> 
> If you decide to test, be sure not to erase your current TeX Live 2013
> distribution. You can return to it if a problem emerges in the 2014 version.
> 
> Currently on Mavericks the TeX Dist Pref Pane is broken; we expect
> that it will be fixed by final release. The beta version of MacTeX
> contains a temporary replacement in /Applications/TeX for
> Maverick users.
> 
> The Tug Pretest page concentrates on downloads for Unix or Windows
> users and it takes a little deciphering to figure out how to get to the
> pretest servers and download mactex-2014.pkg. Think of this as a
> preliminary debugging task for those willing to test MacTeX.
> 
> The more testing, the better.
> 
> 
> --------------
> 
> About This Release:
> 
> 1) Last year we provided Ghostscript 9.07. The new package has Ghostscript 9.10.
> Ghostscript 9.14 was released a couple of weeks ago, but it has significant
> TeX-related bugs and will not be used.
> 
> 2) Convert from ImageMagick is no longer supplied because this year's tex4ht uses
> Ghostscript to image some of its elements for the web. To convert between graphic
> formats on the Mac, use Apple's Preview or Apple's command line program sips.
> 
> 3) We no longer supply the Latin-Modern and TeX Gyre fonts for use outside TeX,
> because users can create links in the Apple font directories to any open-type
> TeX fonts they wish to use.
> 
> 4) Donald Knuth patches bugs on a regular but sparse schedule. The last patches
> were in 2008, his 2014 patches are in the new packages, and he'll visit the
> issue again in 2020.
> 
> 5) MacTeX and BasicTeX are for Intel and PowerPC processors on Leopard and above.
> 
> 6) Last year's MacTeX had size 2.36 GB. This year's MacTeX has size 2.48 GB. MacTeX-2014
> installs in approximately one minute on a Retina machine with flash storage.
> 
> 7) Further details are available on the Tug Pretest Page.
> 
> Dick Koch
> 
> 
> 
> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Fri May 23 13:41:49 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 06:41:49 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Cannot change Tex Distrib. after upgrade to Maverics
In-Reply-To: <3E907B6B-659A-428D-B721-644D700BA10B@moss.in-berlin.de>
References: <49BF0F9E-23A6-4903-AA43-0CB5106B0CFC@free.fr>
 <218CCCAC-BCB7-400A-92BD-E99B66411957@wideopenwest.com>
 <F98E50AE-1491-46F3-905B-3C4E63835130@moss.in-berlin.de>
 <D968442A-36D3-4449-BFA3-5658903F12CE@wideopenwest.com>
 <3E907B6B-659A-428D-B721-644D700BA10B@moss.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <8FDD80CE-3084-4B46-933F-8C2799B7F2B9@wideopenwest.com>


On May 23, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Martin Wilhelm Leidig <listwatch at moss.in-berlin.de> wrote:

> Good mprning, Herb!
> 
> Am 2014-05-23 um 00:53 schrieb Herbert Schulz:
>> 
>> On May 22, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Martin Wilhelm Leidig <listwatch at moss.in-berlin.de> wrote:
>>> on 2014-04-22, 19:41 you wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sigh... the TeX Distribution Preference Pane is broken under Mavericks. We expect to have a fixed version for MacTeX-2014 which is presently being built and tested. Can't give a release date.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to go back to TL2012 please get in touch with me off-list. I have a bit of a technical method for fixing that up.
>>> 
>>> Could you please tell me that method, too?  I have a new MacBook running 10.9.3 and need to be able to run older TL versions when testing my own (La)TeX stuff.  Also, a client asked me for a solution.  Thanks in advance!
> 
> --> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/dxes9ktfidr2ps5/Olinol.gif> Sorry.
> 
>> What versions of the distribution do you need to switch between?
> 
> All of them.  ;-)
> 
> Well, 2010--2013 and, if possible, 2014-pretest would be great.  If I understand correctly, one could achieve that by
> ? re-setting a few symlinks (/usr/texbin, /Library/TeX/Root, /Library/TeX/Documentation, anything else?),
> ? re-setting a few shell variables (MANPATH, PATH), and
> ? (probably) initialising the corresponding TeXMF subtree(s), 
> right?
> 
> 
> Regards from Ladenburg,
> 
> -Moss-
> -- 

Howdy,

In Terminal execute

sudo texdist --setcurrent=TeXLive-2013

and give your admin password when prompted to activate TeX Live 2013. To activate TeX Live 2014 (pretest or distribution once it comes out) substitute TeXLive-2014 for TeXLive-2013 in the command above. Take a look at /Library/TeX/Distributions to see the possible values of that parameter for your setup; e.g., if TeXLive-2014.texdist exists in that folder you can use TeXLive-2014 as the parameter.

PS: There will be a new version of the TeX Distribution Preference Pane distributed with MacTeX-2014 (once it comes out) that fixes the problem with Mavericks.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Fri May 23 13:56:41 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 06:56:41 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] MacTeX-2014 Pretest
In-Reply-To: <E2894EF7-7ED0-4312-9415-F6EDAB3FFA22@telecom-bretagne.eu>
References: <5F5CC953-D0D4-4F4A-A9B4-DBEC27FFC811@math.uoregon.edu>
 <E2894EF7-7ED0-4312-9415-F6EDAB3FFA22@telecom-bretagne.eu>
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On May 23, 2014, at 4:32 AM, Dagnat Fabien <fabien.dagnat at telecom-bretagne.eu> wrote:

> Hello,
> Is there a simple way to remove the universal-darwin package to keep only the x86_64 ones once mactex is installed?
> 
> Fabien

Howdy,

Certainly not easily and I'm not even sure it can be done. The TeX Live distribution installed by MacTeX has both the x86_64-darwin and universal-darwin set for the binaries and tlmgr will attempt to update both of those as scripts, etc., are updated/installed/removed during the year. On the other hand those binaries are all of 170MB of the 3.83GB of TeX Live 2013 on my system so you're not saving much space. If space is really a concern you can try to install the BasicTeX installation available at <http://www.tug.org/mactex/morepackages.html>.

The other thing you could do is install TeX Live directly. You will miss out in the way MacTeX automatically configures everything and gives you a way to switch between multiple distributions (well, that's broken under Mavericks but will be fixed with the release of MacTeX-2014---whenever that happens) and most GUI applications use the the /usr/texbin symbolic link set up by MacTeX out of the box.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Sat May 24 01:08:35 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 23:08:35 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active (`front').
 2) Incremental search
In-Reply-To: <CFA503FB.20304%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
References: <CFA503FB.20304%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
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Hi,
I would like to be able to press Cmd-F when in the preview and search the source file. I thought I?d try something myself before bothering everyone, so I looked at the standard macros, and aimed for something along the lines of

--Applescript
tell application "TeXShop"
Find?
end tell

Of course it didn?t work. Whether it?s just because to invoke the command `Find?? the syntax is more complex, or there is another flaw, I don?t know. I am sure it?s possible, as `Insert Begin/End?, for instance, works when called from the preview, as do others. There probably is a more elegant solution altogether, that simply makes the standard `Find? command available. (The alternative, of course, is to move to the source window, which is what I do currently.)

A related topic is whether one can have an incremental search command in TexShop. It is available in Chrome, say, so should not need programming from scratch.

Thank you.
Nicolae
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 24 01:17:48 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 18:17:48 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
	(`front'). 2) Incremental search
In-Reply-To: <CFA522CB.20309%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
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 <CFA522CB.20309%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
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On May 23, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Nicolae Garleanu <garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Hi, 
> I would like to be able to press Cmd-F when in the preview and search the source file. I thought I?d try something myself before bothering everyone, so I looked at the standard macros, and aimed for something along the lines of 
> 
> --Applescript 
> tell application "TeXShop"
> Find?
> end tell  
> 
> Of course it didn?t work. Whether it?s just because to invoke the command `Find?? the syntax is more complex, or there is another flaw, I don?t know. I am sure it?s possible, as `Insert Begin/End?, for instance, works when called from the preview, as do others. There probably is a more elegant solution altogether, that simply makes the standard `Find? command available. (The alternative, of course, is to move to the source window, which is what I do currently.)
> 
> A related topic is whether one can have an incremental search command in TexShop. It is available in Chrome, say, so should not need programming from scratch.
> 
> Thank you.
> Nicolae

Howdy,

I guess I wouldn't find Cmd-1, Cmd-F terrible to do; Cmd-1 switches to the Source window so that Cmd-F gives the usual Find dialog.

Also, If you are trying to find a location in the Source based on a location in the Preview simply Cmd-Click in the Preview window at the location and it will show up in the Source window. It works the other way too---well, not quite as well since it gets you to the correct paragraph rather than the right words.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Sat May 24 01:25:47 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 23:25:47 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
 (`front'). 2) Incremental search
In-Reply-To: <65EC97AC-B458-4BF5-80CC-453740AEE46E@wideopenwest.com>
References: <CFA503FB.20304%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <CFA522CB.20309%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <65EC97AC-B458-4BF5-80CC-453740AEE46E@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <CFA52616.20316%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>

Thanks, Herb, I didn?t know about Cmd-1, which is an improvement over my
circling through TexShop windows using the HyperSwitch shortcut. Very nice.

I would still quite like to know, though, how to assign a shortcut to a
series of simple TexShop commands (e.g., Cmd-1 Cmd-F, easy though it is to
type it directly).

Nicolae


On 5/23/14, 16:17, "Herbert Schulz" <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

>
>On May 23, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Nicolae Garleanu
><garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi, 
>> I would like to be able to press Cmd-F when in the preview and search
>>the source file. I thought I?d try something myself before bothering
>>everyone, so I looked at the standard macros, and aimed for something
>>along the lines of
>> 
>> --Applescript 
>> tell application "TeXShop"
>> Find?
>> end tell  
>> 
>> Of course it didn?t work. Whether it?s just because to invoke the
>>command `Find?? the syntax is more complex, or there is another flaw, I
>>don?t know. I am sure it?s possible, as `Insert Begin/End?, for
>>instance, works when called from the preview, as do others. There
>>probably is a more elegant solution altogether, that simply makes the
>>standard `Find? command available. (The alternative, of course, is to
>>move to the source window, which is what I do currently.)
>> 
>> A related topic is whether one can have an incremental search command
>>in TexShop. It is available in Chrome, say, so should not need
>>programming from scratch.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Nicolae
>
>Howdy,
>
>I guess I wouldn't find Cmd-1, Cmd-F terrible to do; Cmd-1 switches to
>the Source window so that Cmd-F gives the usual Find dialog.
>
>Also, If you are trying to find a location in the Source based on a
>location in the Preview simply Cmd-Click in the Preview window at the
>location and it will show up in the Source window. It works the other way
>too---well, not quite as well since it gets you to the correct paragraph
>rather than the right words.
>
>Good Luck,
>
>Herb Schulz
>(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 24 01:40:39 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 18:40:39 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
	(`front'). 2) Incremental search
In-Reply-To: <CFA52616.20316%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
References: <CFA503FB.20304%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <CFA522CB.20309%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <65EC97AC-B458-4BF5-80CC-453740AEE46E@wideopenwest.com>
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On May 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Nicolae Garleanu <garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Thanks, Herb, I didn?t know about Cmd-1, which is an improvement over my
> circling through TexShop windows using the HyperSwitch shortcut. Very nice.
> 
> I would still quite like to know, though, how to assign a shortcut to a
> series of simple TexShop commands (e.g., Cmd-1 Cmd-F, easy though it is to
> type it directly).
> 
> Nicolae

Howdy,

Cmd-1 switches back and forth between Source and Preview. Cmd-F2 rotates through Source files. 

I'm not sure how to do what you want except via Applescript (which I don't understand) and the Applescript Dictionary that is provided by TeXShop. If you can do that you can always create a macro and assign it a keyboard shortcut.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sat May 24 02:20:52 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 17:20:52 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
	(`front'). 2) Incremental search
In-Reply-To: <CFA52616.20316%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
References: <CFA503FB.20304%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <CFA522CB.20309%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
 <65EC97AC-B458-4BF5-80CC-453740AEE46E@wideopenwest.com>
 <CFA52616.20316%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <67502EF7-0CBF-4D91-AE1E-2D24D5FD8053@ucsd.edu>


On May 23, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Nicolae Garleanu <garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Thanks, Herb, I didn?t know about Cmd-1, which is an improvement over my
> circling through TexShop windows using the HyperSwitch shortcut. Very nice.
> 
> I would still quite like to know, though, how to assign a shortcut to a
> series of simple TexShop commands (e.g., Cmd-1 Cmd-F, easy though it is to
> type it directly).

The following applescript shows how:

--applescript
tell application "TeXShop"
	activate
	tell application "System Events"
		keystroke "1" using command down
		keystroke "f" using command down --important to use lowercase
	end tell
end tell

This can be entered as a new macro in the Macro Editor (Macros Menu) and given a trigger of your choice.

Michael




From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 24 02:24:38 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 19:24:38 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
	(`front'). 2) Incremental search
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References: <CFA503FB.20304%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
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 <CFA52616.20316%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
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On May 23, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Michael Sharpe <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> 
> On May 23, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Nicolae Garleanu <garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Herb, I didn?t know about Cmd-1, which is an improvement over my
>> circling through TexShop windows using the HyperSwitch shortcut. Very nice.
>> 
>> I would still quite like to know, though, how to assign a shortcut to a
>> series of simple TexShop commands (e.g., Cmd-1 Cmd-F, easy though it is to
>> type it directly).
> 
> The following applescript shows how:
> 
> --applescript
> tell application "TeXShop"
> 	activate
> 	tell application "System Events"
> 		keystroke "1" using command down
> 		keystroke "f" using command down --important to use lowercase
> 	end tell
> end tell
> 
> This can be entered as a new macro in the Macro Editor (Macros Menu) and given a trigger of your choice.
> 
> Michael

Howdy,

You come to the rescue again! :-)

I completely forgot that there was a way to get directly to the menu commands. 

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Sat May 24 04:33:30 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 02:33:30 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
 (`front'). 2) Incremental search
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 <65EC97AC-B458-4BF5-80CC-453740AEE46E@wideopenwest.com>
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Beautiful ? I can build on this for other, perhaps more useful, instances.
(A thought that came in this regard was a `macro recorder?, as I came
across elsewhere. You start it, then perform some tasks, commands, etc.,
then stop. Output may be ugly, but functional. Doesn?t Apple have
something like this? I know that there exists an Automator, not quite sure
what it can and cannot do.)

In this case, I would probably want the macro to check whether the preview
or source is active, o/w I have to run different macros/commands (since
cmd-1 does not activate source, but rather toggles, as Herb explained, and
I have since seen in the `Window? menu). For that purpose I am thinking of
looking at the content of the code for the very command Cmd-1 (or maybe
Cmd-T, which works from wherever). Where can I find these, though? Not in
Macros.plst, I know, perhaps they are `hidden? somewhere? I can probably
inspire myself from one of Claus Gerhardt?s Macros. I also think that
there is something about file names in the TexShop help.

Nicolae


>
>--applescript
>tell application "TeXShop"
>	activate
>	tell application "System Events"
>		keystroke "1" using command down
>		keystroke "f" using command down --important to use lowercase
>	end tell
>end tell



From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sat May 24 07:16:17 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 22:16:17 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
	(`front'). 2) Incremental search
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 <CFA52616.20316%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
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On May 23, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Nicolae Garleanu <garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Beautiful ? I can build on this for other, perhaps more useful, instances.
> (A thought that came in this regard was a `macro recorder?, as I came
> across elsewhere. You start it, then perform some tasks, commands, etc.,
> then stop. Output may be ugly, but functional. Doesn?t Apple have
> something like this? I know that there exists an Automator, not quite sure
> what it can and cannot do.)
> 
> In this case, I would probably want the macro to check whether the preview
> or source is active, o/w I have to run different macros/commands (since
> cmd-1 does not activate source, but rather toggles, as Herb explained, and
> I have since seen in the `Window? menu). For that purpose I am thinking of
> looking at the content of the code for the very command Cmd-1 (or maybe
> Cmd-T, which works from wherever). Where can I find these, though? Not in
> Macros.plst, I know, perhaps they are `hidden? somewhere? I can probably
> inspire myself from one of Claus Gerhardt?s Macros. I also think that
> there is something about file names in the TexShop help.
> 
> Nicolae
> 
> 
>> 
>> --applescript
>> tell application "TeXShop"
>> 	activate
>> 	tell application "System Events"
>> 		keystroke "1" using command down
>> 		keystroke "f" using command down --important to use lowercase
>> 	end tell
>> end tell
> 
> 
> -

You may find the following code snippet to be useful. It seems to be a reliable way to switch the focus from any one of the {.tex,.pdf, console} windows to the corresponding .tex window in TeXShop. If there's an easier way, I'd like to know it.

tell application "TeXShop"
	activate
	set doclst to documents --only the names of the tex docs
	set doc1 to name of document 1 --always returns tex doc name
	set n to ((count doclst) - 1)
	tell application "System Events"
		key code 120 using {shift down, command down} --shift-cmd-F2
		repeat with i from 1 to n
			key code 120 using {shift down, command down}
		end repeat
		-- at beginning of list of docs
		repeat with i from 1 to n
			if ((name of document 1) = doc1) then
				exit repeat
			else
				key code 120 using command down	--cmd-F2			
			end if
		end repeat
	end tell
end tell

Michael



From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Sat May 24 08:49:49 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 06:49:49 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
 (`front'). 2) Incremental search
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Thanks, Michael, I?ll try it out. In the meantime, a quick question: Why
is the first loop necessary? (Or is it just to give me another
idea/example?)

One thought I had had, working under the assumption of being already in a
file associated with the source I wanted (i.e., pdf/console) was to first
execute the cmd-F2 and then shft-cmd-F2. Since I left for later figuring
out how to code that in applescript (now I know!), I didn?t try it.

Nicolae


>You may find the following code snippet to be useful. It seems to be a
>reliable way to switch the focus from any one of the {.tex,.pdf, console}
>windows to the corresponding .tex window in TeXShop. If there's an easier
>way, I'd like to know it.
>
>tell application "TeXShop"
>	activate
>	set doclst to documents --only the names of the tex docs
>	set doc1 to name of document 1 --always returns tex doc name
>	set n to ((count doclst) - 1)
>	tell application "System Events"
>		key code 120 using {shift down, command down} --shift-cmd-F2
>		repeat with i from 1 to n
>			key code 120 using {shift down, command down}
>		end repeat
>		-- at beginning of list of docs
>		repeat with i from 1 to n
>			if ((name of document 1) = doc1) then
>				exit repeat
>			else
>				key code 120 using command down	--cmd-F2			
>			end if
>		end repeat
>	end tell
>end tell
>
>Michael
>
>
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From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Sat May 24 17:40:55 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 08:40:55 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
Message-ID: <525F3554-54EF-459B-99C7-BFDC30C57D86@math.uoregon.edu>

Folks,

A possible final build of TeX Live was created last night. I just uploaded
four files to the pretest server, and these will filter to mirror servers
later today:

	mactex-20140524.pkg
	mactex-20140524.pkg.md5
	mactex-basictex-20140524.pkg
	mactex-basictex-20140524.pkg.md5

All have the latest PrefPane for Mavericks, and new builds of pdftex
and asymptote from yesterday.

Test installs on a wide variety of machines would be most welcome.

Dick Koch


From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sat May 24 19:13:47 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 10:13:47 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
	(`front'). 2) Incremental search
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On May 23, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Nicolae Garleanu <garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Thanks, Michael, I?ll try it out. In the meantime, a quick question: Why
> is the first loop necessary? (Or is it just to give me another
> idea/example?)
> 
> One thought I had had, working under the assumption of being already in a
> file associated with the source I wanted (i.e., pdf/console) was to first
> execute the cmd-F2 and then shft-cmd-F2. Since I left for later figuring
> out how to code that in applescript (now I know!), I didn?t try it.

Here's a more efficient procedure. Works when the original focus is {.pfd,.tex, console}.

tell application "TeXShop"
	activate
	set p to (path of document 1)
	try
		open p as POSIX file
	on error errmsg number errnum
		if not (errnum = -1712) then
			display dialog "Error: '" & errmsg & "' trying to open document"
		end if
	end try
	tell application "System Events" to keystroke "f" using command down
end tell

Oddly, cmd-F2 doesn't do anything unless the focus is already on a .tex file, but shift-cmd-F2 does if the focus is a .tex or .pdf, but not a console window. The first loop in my first example was to get to the beginning of TeXShop's internal list of documents, as [shift-]cmd-F2 doesn't cycle.

Michael

From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Sat May 24 22:02:56 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 20:02:56 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
 (`front'). 2) Incremental search
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This strikes me as the ``right??, direct way to go about it, rather than
trying to make use of other commands whose behavior is a bit unclear,
anyway. (In my case, cmd-f2 does appear to work, but I think that all
files opened since TexShop was last opened, including the ones closed
already (even the .plist kind), are included in the list that
(shft-)cmd-f2 circle through.)

There is, however, a very minor limitation. In practice it would not
affect me, b/c I would normally be in a pdf file I had just compiled, but
if I compile a file (A.tex), then click on another pdf (B.pdf) and run the
macro, then the search is performed in A.tex. In fact, the search seems to
take place in the .tex file that was active most recently, regardless of
compiling. Maybe that is the intended behavior? In other words, `document
1? may simply be the last active .tex file?

Finally and more important, now that I have several useful building
blocks, I could use the answer to this general question: Where can I find
a description of how to code in applescript the various key shortcuts I
would type in myself in TexShop? (E.g., cmd-click?) (I haven?t installed
the developer version of Mavericks, in case you?re wondering.)

Thanks again.
Nicolae


On 5/24/14, 10:13, "Michael Sharpe" <msharpe at ucsd.edu> wrote:

>tell application "TeXShop"
>	activate
>	set p to (path of document 1)
>	try
>		open p as POSIX file
>	on error errmsg number errnum
>		if not (errnum = -1712) then
>			display dialog "Error: '" & errmsg & "' trying to open document"
>		end if
>	end try
>	tell application "System Events" to keystroke "f" using command down
>end tell
>



From fstengel at mac.com  Sun May 25 11:24:13 2014
From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:24:13 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Spelling weirdness in TeXShop
Message-ID: <55641599-327C-4349-BCE1-C7116FE4994A@mac.com>

Hello,

Here is what happens:

1. I have two editor windows opened and the language for spelling is, say French and I am merrily typing away in window 1
2. I suddenly decide I want to change the spelling language to say English. I use the spelling panel found in the Edit menu to change, and while typing everything works well, and my French is appropriately flagged.
3. I click on window 2 and the spelling language reverts to French
4. I click on window 1 and the language remains French. Thus all my English is now flagged as incorrect.

Is that normal ? It actually took me a long time to have the spelling language be the one I want: starting TeXShop, selecting the language then quitting to have it stick... While I can understand that it would be difficult to have one language per window, I find it weird tat the language resets itself to the language use at the time one last quit TeXShop.

-- 
Frank STENGEL (fstengel<at>mac.com)



From herve.choplin at gmail.com  Sun May 25 14:15:06 2014
From: herve.choplin at gmail.com (=?windows-1252?Q?Herv=E9_CHOPLIN?=)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 14:15:06 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <525F3554-54EF-459B-99C7-BFDC30C57D86@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <525F3554-54EF-459B-99C7-BFDC30C57D86@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <5723DE21-88A7-4DB9-BF1A-F7CB9DC93C27@gmail.com>

I have installed the mactex-20140524 and the PrefPane for Mavericks run OK (I can switch from 2014 to 2013 and vice-versa without problems).
My files typset normally without problems in macTeX-2014.

I work with an iMac 21.5? Intel Core i5, 4Gb of memory - MacOSX Mavericks (10.9.3)

Thank's

Herv? CHOPLIN
3, rue de l'Abbaye de Gastines
37100 TOURS - France
e-mail: herve.choplin at gmail.com

Le 24 mai 2014 ? 17:40, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> a ?crit :

> Folks,
> 
> A possible final build of TeX Live was created last night. I just uploaded
> four files to the pretest server, and these will filter to mirror servers
> later today:
> 
> 	mactex-20140524.pkg
> 	mactex-20140524.pkg.md5
> 	mactex-basictex-20140524.pkg
> 	mactex-basictex-20140524.pkg.md5
> 
> All have the latest PrefPane for Mavericks, and new builds of pdftex
> and asymptote from yesterday.
> 
> Test installs on a wide variety of machines would be most welcome.
> 
> Dick Koch
> 
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From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Sun May 25 17:22:20 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 08:22:20 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Sunday Pretest Versions
Message-ID: <4C0780CA-3A71-445B-BE0D-057AD63CECF7@math.uoregon.edu>

Folks,

Last night a few support files in TeX Live changed. No binaries changed.
I just created pretest files for the changed version and uploaded to
the pretest server. These will flow to mirror servers later today.

	mactex-20140525.pkg
	mactex-20140525.pkg.md5
	mactex-basictex-20140525.pkg
	mactex-basictex-20140525.pkg.md5

All have the latest PrefPane for Mavericks.

Yesterday?s pretests were dated May 24. Today?s are dated May 25.

Test installs on a wide variety of machines would be most welcome.

Dick Koch

From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Sun May 25 18:51:36 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 09:51:36 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Spelling weirdness in TeXShop
In-Reply-To: <55641599-327C-4349-BCE1-C7116FE4994A@mac.com>
References: <55641599-327C-4349-BCE1-C7116FE4994A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <ED15CF27-979E-4842-AA72-A3A84BE39A9E@math.uoregon.edu>

Frank,

On May 25, 2014, at 2:24 AM, Frank STENGEL <fstengel at mac.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Here is what happens:
> 
> 1. I have two editor windows opened and the language for spelling is, say French and I am merrily typing away in window 1
> 2. I suddenly decide I want to change the spelling language to say English. I use the spelling panel found in the Edit menu to change, and while typing everything works well, and my French is appropriately flagged.
> 3. I click on window 2 and the spelling language reverts to French
> 4. I click on window 1 and the language remains French. Thus all my English is now flagged as incorrect.
> 
> Is that normal ? It actually took me a long time to have the spelling language be the one I want: starting TeXShop, selecting the language then quitting to have it stick... While I can understand that it would be difficult to have one language per window, I find it weird tat the language resets itself to the language use at the time one last quit TeXShop.
> 
> -- 
> Frank STENGEL (fstengel<at>mac.com)


This is normal, the result of very recent code changes.

Until recently, TeXShop relied on making spell language changes using
Apple?s System Preferences, in the

	Keyboard ?> Text

panel. This panel sets a global dictionary for all of your programs. You could
use the Spell and Grammar panel to change the dictionary in TeXShop,
but TeXShop didn?t remember this change when quitting.

Recently the code changed and now TeXShop remembers any change you
make in the Spelling and Grammar panel. This change affects all TeXShop
source files.

But recall that TeXShop also has a way to set the dictionary for a particular
file in the header. For example:

	% !TEX spellcheck = de-DE

In the first version of the changed code, I ignored this and users objected.
So currently this choice overrides the spelling choice via the Spelling and Grammar
panel.Thus if you have selected a dictionary in Spelling and Grammar, this dictionary
will be used by default in any source file you open which DOES NOT have a
"% !TEX spellcheck = de-DE? in the header. If, however, you open a file which has
this in the header, then "% !TEX spellcheck = de-DE? overrides the default choice.

TeXShop should switch correctly as particular source files are brought to the front.
For example, if your default dictionary is English but you have a source file in French
with an appropriate header,  then clicking on the French file should convert the Spell and Grammar
choice to French, but clicking on an ordinary source should switch Spell and Grammar
back to the default English.

Long ago, I decided to save straight source files without any ?secret information? that I?d
strip away, or secret information hidden in a resource fork. So it isn?t possible to set a dictionary
on a file-by-file basis WITHOUT using headers.

This still leaves some ?edge cases.? Do changes in Spelling and Grammar affect already
open files? What if you are using a file with a header choice for dictionary,
and you change the dictionary in the Spelling and Grammar panel?

Please avoid such edge cases. Start TeXShop with a default source or no source. Select
the dictionary you want to use most of the time. Quit TeXShop. Then when you write
in another language, put a dictionary header at the top of that file.


Dick Koch




From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sun May 25 20:25:25 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:25:25 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
	(`front'). 2) Incremental search
In-Reply-To: <CFA642D7.20387%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
References: <CFA503FB.20304%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
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On May 24, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Nicolae Garleanu <garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> This strikes me as the ``right??, direct way to go about it, rather than
> trying to make use of other commands whose behavior is a bit unclear,
> anyway. (In my case, cmd-f2 does appear to work, but I think that all
> files opened since TexShop was last opened, including the ones closed
> already (even the .plist kind), are included in the list that
> (shft-)cmd-f2 circle through.)
> 

I think one has to go back to a variant of the prior version. The following works for me in both --applescript and --applescript direct modes (I prefer the latter):

tell application "TeXShop"
	activate
	set win to name of window 1
	if win ends with ".pdf" then
		tell application "System Events" to keystroke "1" using command down
	else if win ends with " console" then
		set doclst to documents
		set doc1 to (name of document 1) --always returns tex doc name
		set n to ((count doclst) - 1)
		tell application "System Events"
			key code 120 using {shift down, command down} --shift-cmd-F2
			repeat n times
				key code 120 using {shift down, command down}
			end repeat
			--now at beginning of TeXShop's internal list of docs
			repeat n times
				tell application "TeXShop" to set thedoc to (name of window 1)
				if (thedoc = doc1) then
					exit repeat
				else
					key code 120 using command down --cmd-F2			
				end if
			end repeat
		end tell
	end if
	tell application "System Events" to keystroke "f" using command down
end tell




From garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu  Sun May 25 20:48:06 2014
From: garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu (Nicolae Garleanu)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 18:48:06 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
 (`front'). 2) Incremental search
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Message-ID: <CFA78537.203EE%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>

Hi Michael,
Am I right that, if one is content with the ability to call the macro from
the .pdf and .tex files, then one can just do something like

if win ends with ".pdf" then
	tell application "System Events" to keystroke "1" using command down
end if
tell application "System Events" to keystroke "f" using command down

I.e., skip the loop dealing with consoles? Of course it can?t hurt to have
it there anyway. In fact, what I had played with was to have cmd-1 be
executed anyway, since that way the latest .tex would be reactivated,
unless it was already active, in which case it remains the latest .tex.
(Code below.) Not meant to work with consoles, of course. For reasons I
don?t understand, it doesn?t always do what I expect it to, in that it
sometimes searches in the wrong .tex file, and also beeps as if there?s an
error. May have to do with the way I change focus to the latest window?
Anyway, I?ll implement your latest. As for ``applescript direct??, I was
afraid that, since I needed to give input through GUI to perform the
search there may be a problem.


Nicolae


--applescript
tell application "TeXShop"
	activate
	tell application "System Events"
		keystroke "1" using command down
	end tell
	set p to (path of document 1)
	try
		open p as POSIX file
	on error errmsg number errnum
		if not (errnum = -1712) then
			display dialog "Error: '" & errmsg & "' trying to open document"
		end if
	end try
	tell application "System Events" to keystroke "f" using command down
end tell








>I think one has to go back to a variant of the prior version. The
>following works for me in both --applescript and --applescript direct
>modes (I prefer the latter):
>
>tell application "TeXShop"
>	activate
>	set win to name of window 1
>	if win ends with ".pdf" then
>		tell application "System Events" to keystroke "1" using command down
>	else if win ends with " console" then
>		set doclst to documents
>		set doc1 to (name of document 1) --always returns tex doc name
>		set n to ((count doclst) - 1)
>		tell application "System Events"
>			key code 120 using {shift down, command down} --shift-cmd-F2
>			repeat n times
>				key code 120 using {shift down, command down}
>			end repeat
>			--now at beginning of TeXShop's internal list of docs
>			repeat n times
>				tell application "TeXShop" to set thedoc to (name of window 1)
>				if (thedoc = doc1) then
>					exit repeat
>				else
>					key code 120 using command down --cmd-F2			
>				end if
>			end repeat
>		end tell
>	end if
>	tell application "System Events" to keystroke "f" using command down
>end tell



From fstengel at mac.com  Sun May 25 21:03:19 2014
From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 21:03:19 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Spelling weirdness in TeXShop
In-Reply-To: <ED15CF27-979E-4842-AA72-A3A84BE39A9E@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <55641599-327C-4349-BCE1-C7116FE4994A@mac.com>
 <ED15CF27-979E-4842-AA72-A3A84BE39A9E@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <73A825B1-E6F9-415F-92FB-0314B604C075@mac.com>


Le 25 mai 2014 ? 18:51, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> a ?crit :

<snip>
> This is normal, the result of very recent code changes.

I must have missed the relevant information. Anyway, thanks for clarifying the behaviour and giving the new way of doing things.

<snap>

> Please avoid such edge cases. Start TeXShop with a default source or no source. Select
> the dictionary you want to use most of the time. Quit TeXShop. Then when you write
> in another language, put a dictionary header at the top of that file.

Thanks

-- 
Frank STENGEL (fstengel<at>mac.com)



From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Mon May 26 00:43:00 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 15:43:00 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] 1) Search source file when preview is active
	(`front'). 2) Incremental search
In-Reply-To: <CFA78537.203EE%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
References: <CFA503FB.20304%garleanu@haas.berkeley.edu>
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On May 25, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Nicolae Garleanu <garleanu at haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> Am I right that, if one is content with the ability to call the macro from
> the .pdf and .tex files, then one can just do something like
> 
> if win ends with ".pdf" then
> 	tell application "System Events" to keystroke "1" using command down
> end if
> tell application "System Events" to keystroke "f" using command down
> 
> I.e., skip the loop dealing with consoles? Of course it can?t hurt to have
> it there anyway. In fact, what I had played with was to have cmd-1 be
> executed anyway, since that way the latest .tex would be reactivated,
> unless it was already active, in which case it remains the latest .tex.
> (Code below.) Not meant to work with consoles, of course. For reasons I
> don?t understand, it doesn?t always do what I expect it to, in that it
> sometimes searches in the wrong .tex file, and also beeps as if there?s an
> error. May have to do with the way I change focus to the latest window?
> Anyway, I?ll implement your latest. As for ``applescript direct??, I was
> afraid that, since I needed to give input through GUI to perform the
> search there may be a problem.

It turns out that the list traversed by Next Source Window and Previous Source Window includes all source files opened since TeXShop's last restart, and can result in opening previously closed files. The following version is simpler and does not have this problem.

tell application "TeXShop"
	activate
	set win to name of window 1
	if win ends with ".pdf" then
		tell application "System Events" to keystroke "1" using command down
	else if win ends with " console" then
		set src to (text 1 thru -9 of win) & ".tex"
		try
			set index of (first window whose name is src) to 1
		end try
	end if
	tell application "System Events" to keystroke "f" using command down
end tell

Michael

From murrayeisenberg at gmail.com  Mon May 26 19:07:06 2014
From: murrayeisenberg at gmail.com (Murray Eisenberg)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:07:06 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX]  New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1400958001.71914.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1400958001.71914.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <E26613C9-10F7-4C7F-A5D5-4998FA5497A7@gmail.com>

I just installed mactex-20140524.pkg on a mid-2011 iMac running OS X 10.9.3, where mactex-2013 was already installed.

Three questions:

(1) Should TeX Live Utility still be Version 1.17, dated Oct 29, 2013? That's all I find.

(2) When I open that app, it complains that the selected Repository is for 2013, whereas I'm using TeX Live 2014. Is there some repository to which I can point just for testing purposes (not that there would be any updates to packages yet)?

(3) Should the version of TeXShop.app be 3.36.1 still?

Issue, related to (2) above:

I tried TeXing a book and am getting some "Font not found" fatal errors that I don't get if I change back to TeX Live 2013. I presume the cause is that updmap hasn't been run yet by TeX Live Utility, since I couldn't do anything with it given the repository mismatch. 

What should I do as a work-around until such time as I can get a legitimate TeX Live 2014 repository URL and update, which causes updmap to be run automatically?

Note that my local texmf tree is ~/Library/texmf.  Hence I don't want to mess things up by entering the wrong command (updmap vs. updmap-sys) as the wrong user (me vs. su) at the command line in order to update what TeX knows about my local fonts.


On 24 May 2014 08:40:55 -0700, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> A possible final build of TeX Live was created last night. I just uploaded
> four files to the pretest server, and these will filter to mirror servers
> later today:
> 
> 	mactex-20140524.pkg
> 	mactex-20140524.pkg.md5
> 	mactex-basictex-20140524.pkg
> 	mactex-basictex-20140524.pkg.md5
> 
> All have the latest PrefPane for Mavericks, and new builds of pdftex
> and asymptote from yesterday.
> 
> Test installs on a wide variety of machines would be most welcome.

---
Murray Eisenberg		murrayeisenberg at gmail.com
503 King Farm Blvd #101		Home (240)-246-7240
Rockville, MD 20850-6667	Mobile (413)-427-5334







From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Mon May 26 19:23:35 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 12:23:35 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <E26613C9-10F7-4C7F-A5D5-4998FA5497A7@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1400958001.71914.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
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Message-ID: <9CB2ADAF-4315-417A-98C0-2A99692E4EC0@wideopenwest.com>


On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just installed mactex-20140524.pkg on a mid-2011 iMac running OS X 10.9.3, where mactex-2013 was already installed.
> 
> Three questions:
> 
> (1) Should TeX Live Utility still be Version 1.17, dated Oct 29, 2013? That's all I find.
> 

Howdy,

TLU 1.17 is the still the up to date version.

> (2) When I open that app, it complains that the selected Repository is for 2013, whereas I'm using TeX Live 2014. Is there some repository to which I can point just for testing purposes (not that there would be any updates to packages yet)?
> 

To update you need to use one of the pretest repositories listed at <http://www.tug.org/texlive/mirmon/>. Click on a repository reasonably close to you to open that repository and then copy the address. Open TLU and the Configure->Manage Repositories; press the + and paste the repository address there. Then make that your Home repository (you change it again when MacTeX 2014 is released) by clicking the Use As Home button.

> (3) Should the version of TeXShop.app be 3.36.1 still?

TeXShop 3.36.1 is the up to date version.

> 
> Issue, related to (2) above:
> 
> I tried TeXing a book and am getting some "Font not found" fatal errors that I don't get if I change back to TeX Live 2013. I presume the cause is that updmap hasn't been run yet by TeX Live Utility, since I couldn't do anything with it given the repository mismatch. 
> 
> What should I do as a work-around until such time as I can get a legitimate TeX Live 2014 repository URL and update, which causes updmap to be run automatically?
> 
> Note that my local texmf tree is ~/Library/texmf.  Hence I don't want to mess things up by entering the wrong command (updmap vs. updmap-sys) as the wrong user (me vs. su) at the command line in order to update what TeX knows about my local fonts.
> 

Where do you have your fonts; in your personal tree (starting at ~/Library/texmf) or the texmf-local tree (starting at /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local)?

Did you ever create an updmap.cfg file and place it in the proper place? If not, please download and read `TeXLive2012+Changes.pdf.zip' from <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10932738/index.html> and ask about any problems you encounter. If you already did that simply run

updmap

IFF the fonts are in your personal tree or

sudo -H updmap-sys

IFF the fonts are in the texmf-local tree.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Mon May 26 19:28:26 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 10:28:26 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <E26613C9-10F7-4C7F-A5D5-4998FA5497A7@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1400958001.71914.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <E26613C9-10F7-4C7F-A5D5-4998FA5497A7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FCB051A3-345B-483C-AAA5-077B4A64414A@math.uoregon.edu>

Murray,

On May 26, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just installed mactex-20140524.pkg on a mid-2011 iMac running OS X 10.9.3, where mactex-2013 was already installed.
> 
> Three questions:
> 
> (1) Should TeX Live Utility still be Version 1.17, dated Oct 29, 2013? That's all I find.

Yes. It is the latest release version, as you can see by selecting ?Check For Updates? in the
appropriate menu. There are later beta versions, but we do not use them by
request of the authors.

> 
> (2) When I open that app, it complains that the selected Repository is for 2013, whereas I'm using TeX Live 2014. Is there some repository to which I can point just for testing purposes (not that there would be any updates to packages yet)?

Use, for example,

	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/texlive/tlpretest


> 
> (3) Should the version of TeXShop.app be 3.36.1 still?

Yes.

Dick Koch

From murrayeisenberg at gmail.com  Mon May 26 22:27:09 2014
From: murrayeisenberg at gmail.com (Murray Eisenberg)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:27:09 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1401130801.83677.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1401130801.83677.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <244947BC-6936-46DD-915E-EF95456E71C1@gmail.com>


On 26 May 2014 12:23:35 -0500, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I just installed mactex-20140524.pkg on a mid-2011 iMac running OS X 10.9.3, where mactex-2013 was already installed.
>> 
>> Three questions:
>> 
>> (1) Should TeX Live Utility still be Version 1.17, dated Oct 29, 2013? That's all I find.
>> 
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> TLU 1.17 is the still the up to date version.
> 
>> (2) When I open that app, it complains that the selected Repository is for 2013, whereas I'm using TeX Live 2014. Is there some repository to which I can point just for testing purposes (not that there would be any updates to packages yet)?
>> 
> 
> To update you need to use one of the pretest repositories listed at <http://www.tug.org/texlive/mirmon/>. Click on a repository reasonably close to you to open that repository and then copy the address. Open TLU and the Configure->Manage Repositories; press the + and paste the repository address there. Then make that your Home repository (you change it again when MacTeX 2014 is released) by clicking the Use As Home button.
> 
>> (3) Should the version of TeXShop.app be 3.36.1 still?
> 
> TeXShop 3.36.1 is the up to date version.
> 
>> 
>> Issue, related to (2) above:
>> 
>> I tried TeXing a book and am getting some "Font not found" fatal errors that I don't get if I change back to TeX Live 2013. I presume the cause is that updmap hasn't been run yet by TeX Live Utility, since I couldn't do anything with it given the repository mismatch. 
>> 
>> What should I do as a work-around until such time as I can get a legitimate TeX Live 2014 repository URL and update, which causes updmap to be run automatically?
>> 
>> Note that my local texmf tree is ~/Library/texmf.  Hence I don't want to mess things up by entering the wrong command (updmap vs. updmap-sys) as the wrong user (me vs. su) at the command line in order to update what TeX knows about my local fonts.
>> 
> 
> Where do you have your fonts; in your personal tree (starting at ~/Library/texmf) or the texmf-local tree (starting at /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local)?
> 
> Did you ever create an updmap.cfg file and place it in the proper place? If not, please download and read `TeXLive2012+Changes.pdf.zip' from <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10932738/index.html> and ask about any problems you encounter. If you already did that simply run
> 
> updmap
> 
> IFF the fonts are in your personal tree or
> 
> sudo -H updmap-sys
> 
> IFF the fonts are in the texmf-local tree.

OK! I chose one of the pretest repositories for TL 2014, saw there were available updates, did the update, and that ran updmap automatically. And since I still had my udmap.cfg and had the TL Utility preference checked for "Automatically enable fonts in my home directory", this took care of adding the fonts from ~/Library/texmf.  So apparently I have no need now to run the command-line utilities to update fonts.

---
Murray Eisenberg		murrayeisenberg at gmail.com
503 King Farm Blvd #101		Home (240)-246-7240
Rockville, MD 20850-6667	Mobile (413)-427-5334







From koch at math.uoregon.edu  Mon May 26 22:45:44 2014
From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:45:44 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <244947BC-6936-46DD-915E-EF95456E71C1@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1401130801.83677.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <244947BC-6936-46DD-915E-EF95456E71C1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E226AE8-4998-4A5F-857D-681E8A5F62F0@math.uoregon.edu>

Murray,

I?m SLIGHTLY surprised that you discovered there were updates. TeX Live Utility doesn?t provide updates here
and I  thought the contents of TeX Live 2014 were frozen. Might you have downloaded the 0524 version
of MacTeX rather than the 0525 version? (Makes no difference to you since now you are up to
date).

Dick Koch


On May 26, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK! I chose one of the pretest repositories for TL 2014, saw there were available updates, did the update, and that ran updmap automatically. And since I still had my udmap.cfg and had the TL Utility preference checked for "Automatically enable fonts in my home directory", this took care of adding the fonts from ~/Library/texmf.  So apparently I have no need now to run the command-line utilities to update fonts.
> 
> ---
> Murray Eisenberg		murrayeisenberg at gmail.com
> 503 King Farm Blvd #101		Home (240)-246-7240
> Rockville, MD 20850-6667	Mobile (413)-427-5334
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Mon May 26 23:40:45 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:40:45 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <244947BC-6936-46DD-915E-EF95456E71C1@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1401130801.83677.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <244947BC-6936-46DD-915E-EF95456E71C1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <614E6D23-8B91-45A5-A96D-A3B43FB51D2C@wideopenwest.com>


On May 26, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On 26 May 2014 12:23:35 -0500, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just installed mactex-20140524.pkg on a mid-2011 iMac running OS X 10.9.3, where mactex-2013 was already installed.
>>> 
>>> Three questions:
>>> 
>>> (1) Should TeX Live Utility still be Version 1.17, dated Oct 29, 2013? That's all I find.
>>> 
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> TLU 1.17 is the still the up to date version.
>> 
>>> (2) When I open that app, it complains that the selected Repository is for 2013, whereas I'm using TeX Live 2014. Is there some repository to which I can point just for testing purposes (not that there would be any updates to packages yet)?
>>> 
>> 
>> To update you need to use one of the pretest repositories listed at <http://www.tug.org/texlive/mirmon/>. Click on a repository reasonably close to you to open that repository and then copy the address. Open TLU and the Configure->Manage Repositories; press the + and paste the repository address there. Then make that your Home repository (you change it again when MacTeX 2014 is released) by clicking the Use As Home button.
>> 
>>> (3) Should the version of TeXShop.app be 3.36.1 still?
>> 
>> TeXShop 3.36.1 is the up to date version.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Issue, related to (2) above:
>>> 
>>> I tried TeXing a book and am getting some "Font not found" fatal errors that I don't get if I change back to TeX Live 2013. I presume the cause is that updmap hasn't been run yet by TeX Live Utility, since I couldn't do anything with it given the repository mismatch. 
>>> 
>>> What should I do as a work-around until such time as I can get a legitimate TeX Live 2014 repository URL and update, which causes updmap to be run automatically?
>>> 
>>> Note that my local texmf tree is ~/Library/texmf.  Hence I don't want to mess things up by entering the wrong command (updmap vs. updmap-sys) as the wrong user (me vs. su) at the command line in order to update what TeX knows about my local fonts.
>>> 
>> 
>> Where do you have your fonts; in your personal tree (starting at ~/Library/texmf) or the texmf-local tree (starting at /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local)?
>> 
>> Did you ever create an updmap.cfg file and place it in the proper place? If not, please download and read `TeXLive2012+Changes.pdf.zip' from <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10932738/index.html> and ask about any problems you encounter. If you already did that simply run
>> 
>> updmap
>> 
>> IFF the fonts are in your personal tree or
>> 
>> sudo -H updmap-sys
>> 
>> IFF the fonts are in the texmf-local tree.
> 
> OK! I chose one of the pretest repositories for TL 2014, saw there were available updates, did the update, and that ran updmap automatically. And since I still had my udmap.cfg and had the TL Utility preference checked for "Automatically enable fonts in my home directory", this took care of adding the fonts from ~/Library/texmf.  So apparently I have no need now to run the command-line utilities to update fonts.
> 

Howdy,

Ta Da! It all woks out in the end!

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Mon May 26 23:42:19 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:42:19 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <0E226AE8-4998-4A5F-857D-681E8A5F62F0@math.uoregon.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1401130801.83677.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <244947BC-6936-46DD-915E-EF95456E71C1@gmail.com>
 <0E226AE8-4998-4A5F-857D-681E8A5F62F0@math.uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <A9F623AD-B084-44E2-8F94-7DEEFA4A31AB@wideopenwest.com>


On May 26, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> Murray,
> 
> I?m SLIGHTLY surprised that you discovered there were updates. TeX Live Utility doesn?t provide updates here
> and I  thought the contents of TeX Live 2014 were frozen. Might you have downloaded the 0524 version
> of MacTeX rather than the 0525 version? (Makes no difference to you since now you are up to
> date).
> 
> Dick Koch

Howdy,

He did the 05/24/2014 update rather than the 05/25/2014 version. Those are the same three minor updates that Gary Gray picked up.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From fergdc at Shaw.ca  Tue May 27 05:24:53 2014
From: fergdc at Shaw.ca (Don Green Dragon)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 21:24:53 -0600
Subject: [OS X TeX] Text floating around a figure
In-Reply-To: <578B986C-CF47-4F66-987F-963B6C64E413@wideopenwest.com>
References: <D811AEE2-708D-4DFD-BA84-9D52872FD335@math.jussieu.fr>
 <F2FA256B-1839-4855-9DD4-3CAFFC24B491@wideopenwest.com>
 <178FD5C1-9ADE-4C7B-A9D9-7EB467B9E48F@math.jussieu.fr>
 <578B986C-CF47-4F66-987F-963B6C64E413@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <6236057A-4E65-4A6F-A569-E5F22C8CBCA9@Shaw.ca>

Hi Herb,

In reply to Andre, Herb wrote

> Howdy,
> 
> Well, the package is called pininpar not picins. I just ran
> 
> %%!TEX TS-program = pdflatex
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{picinpar}
> \usepackage{floatflt}
> \begin{document}
> Hello World
> \end{document}
> 
> and had no problem loading both packages.

Are you implying that the environments 

\begin{window} . . . \end{window}    or    \begin{figwindow} . . . \end{figwindow}

actually work in your set up?

Is it necessary to include \usepackage{floatflt}?

I have tried to use the two examples in The LaTeX Companion, pages 108?109, but no luck. Despite the examples, I am not sure of the required format for either \begin{window}  or \begin{figwindow}. Here is a short version that I tried

\begin{figwindow}
[2, l, \tikz \draw (0,0) circle (3 pt); , {Run around Circle} ]
At least six lines of text that is supposed to flow around the small circle. Circle to be at the left margin.
\end{figwindow}

The error message is:
================
./LaTeXbookShort.tex:662: Use of \figwindow doesn't match its definition.
l.662 \begin{figwindow}
                       
? 
==================
I tried adding the line \usepackage{floatflt} to the preamble but that did not help. I removed the caption {Run around Circle} and that made no difference. 

Can anyone point out the syntax error?


don green dragon
fergdc at shaw.ca






From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Tue May 27 09:24:06 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 02:24:06 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Text floating around a figure
In-Reply-To: <6236057A-4E65-4A6F-A569-E5F22C8CBCA9@Shaw.ca>
References: <D811AEE2-708D-4DFD-BA84-9D52872FD335@math.jussieu.fr>
 <F2FA256B-1839-4855-9DD4-3CAFFC24B491@wideopenwest.com>
 <178FD5C1-9ADE-4C7B-A9D9-7EB467B9E48F@math.jussieu.fr>
 <578B986C-CF47-4F66-987F-963B6C64E413@wideopenwest.com>
 <6236057A-4E65-4A6F-A569-E5F22C8CBCA9@Shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <876C7C8E-B119-4D07-8295-9DBC6ED8BE43@wideopenwest.com>


On May 26, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Don Green Dragon <fergdc at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Herb,
> 
> In reply to Andre, Herb wrote
> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Well, the package is called pininpar not picins. I just ran
>> 
>> %%!TEX TS-program = pdflatex
>> \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage{picinpar}
>> \usepackage{floatflt}
>> \begin{document}
>> Hello World
>> \end{document}
>> 
>> and had no problem loading both packages.
> 
> Are you implying that the environments 
> 
> \begin{window} . . . \end{window}    or    \begin{figwindow} . . . \end{figwindow}
> 
> actually work in your set up?
> 
> Is it necessary to include \usepackage{floatflt}?
> 
> I have tried to use the two examples in The LaTeX Companion, pages 108?109, but no luck. Despite the examples, I am not sure of the required format for either \begin{window}  or \begin{figwindow}. Here is a short version that I tried
> 
> \begin{figwindow}
> [2, l, \tikz \draw (0,0) circle (3 pt); , {Run around Circle} ]
> At least six lines of text that is supposed to flow around the small circle. Circle to be at the left margin.
> \end{figwindow}
> 
> The error message is:
> ================
> ./LaTeXbookShort.tex:662: Use of \figwindow doesn't match its definition.
> l.662 \begin{figwindow}
> 
> ? 
> ==================
> I tried adding the line \usepackage{floatflt} to the preamble but that did not help. I removed the caption {Run around Circle} and that made no difference. 
> 
> Can anyone point out the syntax error?
> 
> 
> don green dragon
> fergdc at shaw.ca

Howdy,

How old is the post you copied that from? It looks as though there was a problem of load order rather than use of those packages that I was discussing but I can't be sure.

Finally, did you try to put the drawing inside braces or in an \mbox so that it appears as a single argument? The comma in the \tikz command could be misinterpreted by the argument parser.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Tue May 27 09:42:34 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 02:42:34 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Text floating around a figure
In-Reply-To: <876C7C8E-B119-4D07-8295-9DBC6ED8BE43@wideopenwest.com>
References: <D811AEE2-708D-4DFD-BA84-9D52872FD335@math.jussieu.fr>
 <F2FA256B-1839-4855-9DD4-3CAFFC24B491@wideopenwest.com>
 <178FD5C1-9ADE-4C7B-A9D9-7EB467B9E48F@math.jussieu.fr>
 <578B986C-CF47-4F66-987F-963B6C64E413@wideopenwest.com>
 <6236057A-4E65-4A6F-A569-E5F22C8CBCA9@Shaw.ca>
 <876C7C8E-B119-4D07-8295-9DBC6ED8BE43@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <AD1E2570-814C-4682-8205-5D18B3A44F3E@wideopenwest.com>


On May 27, 2014, at 2:24 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 26, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Don Green Dragon <fergdc at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Herb,
>> 
>> In reply to Andre, Herb wrote
>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> Well, the package is called pininpar not picins. I just ran
>>> 
>>> %%!TEX TS-program = pdflatex
>>> \documentclass{article}
>>> \usepackage{picinpar}
>>> \usepackage{floatflt}
>>> \begin{document}
>>> Hello World
>>> \end{document}
>>> 
>>> and had no problem loading both packages.
>> 
>> Are you implying that the environments 
>> 
>> \begin{window} . . . \end{window}    or    \begin{figwindow} . . . \end{figwindow}
>> 
>> actually work in your set up?
>> 
>> Is it necessary to include \usepackage{floatflt}?
>> 
>> I have tried to use the two examples in The LaTeX Companion, pages 108?109, but no luck. Despite the examples, I am not sure of the required format for either \begin{window}  or \begin{figwindow}. Here is a short version that I tried
>> 
>> \begin{figwindow}
>> [2, l, \tikz \draw (0,0) circle (3 pt); , {Run around Circle} ]
>> At least six lines of text that is supposed to flow around the small circle. Circle to be at the left margin.
>> \end{figwindow}
>> 
>> The error message is:
>> ================
>> ./LaTeXbookShort.tex:662: Use of \figwindow doesn't match its definition.
>> l.662 \begin{figwindow}
>> 
>> ? 
>> ==================
>> I tried adding the line \usepackage{floatflt} to the preamble but that did not help. I removed the caption {Run around Circle} and that made no difference. 
>> 
>> Can anyone point out the syntax error?
>> 
>> 
>> don green dragon
>> fergdc at shaw.ca
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> How old is the post you copied that from? It looks as though there was a problem of load order rather than use of those packages that I was discussing but I can't be sure.
> 
> Finally, did you try to put the drawing inside braces or in an \mbox so that it appears as a single argument? The comma in the \tikz command could be misinterpreted by the argument parser.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
> 

Howdy,

Enclosed is a file that uses the example on page 108 of `The LaTeX Companion'. I doubled the length of the paragraph since the text width is much larger than the example given.

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Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)




From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Tue May 27 09:54:47 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 02:54:47 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] Text floating around a figure
In-Reply-To: <AD1E2570-814C-4682-8205-5D18B3A44F3E@wideopenwest.com>
References: <D811AEE2-708D-4DFD-BA84-9D52872FD335@math.jussieu.fr>
 <F2FA256B-1839-4855-9DD4-3CAFFC24B491@wideopenwest.com>
 <178FD5C1-9ADE-4C7B-A9D9-7EB467B9E48F@math.jussieu.fr>
 <578B986C-CF47-4F66-987F-963B6C64E413@wideopenwest.com>
 <6236057A-4E65-4A6F-A569-E5F22C8CBCA9@Shaw.ca>
 <876C7C8E-B119-4D07-8295-9DBC6ED8BE43@wideopenwest.com>
 <AD1E2570-814C-4682-8205-5D18B3A44F3E@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <622D3217-E840-4D3A-9B3D-3E3B2864B383@wideopenwest.com>


On May 27, 2014, at 2:42 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 27, 2014, at 2:24 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 26, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Don Green Dragon <fergdc at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Herb,
>>> 
>>> In reply to Andre, Herb wrote
>>> 
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> 
>>>> Well, the package is called pininpar not picins. I just ran
>>>> 
>>>> %%!TEX TS-program = pdflatex
>>>> \documentclass{article}
>>>> \usepackage{picinpar}
>>>> \usepackage{floatflt}
>>>> \begin{document}
>>>> Hello World
>>>> \end{document}
>>>> 
>>>> and had no problem loading both packages.
>>> 
>>> Are you implying that the environments 
>>> 
>>> \begin{window} . . . \end{window}    or    \begin{figwindow} . . . \end{figwindow}
>>> 
>>> actually work in your set up?
>>> 
>>> Is it necessary to include \usepackage{floatflt}?
>>> 
>>> I have tried to use the two examples in The LaTeX Companion, pages 108?109, but no luck. Despite the examples, I am not sure of the required format for either \begin{window}  or \begin{figwindow}. Here is a short version that I tried
>>> 
>>> \begin{figwindow}
>>> [2, l, \tikz \draw (0,0) circle (3 pt); , {Run around Circle} ]
>>> At least six lines of text that is supposed to flow around the small circle. Circle to be at the left margin.
>>> \end{figwindow}
>>> 
>>> The error message is:
>>> ================
>>> ./LaTeXbookShort.tex:662: Use of \figwindow doesn't match its definition.
>>> l.662 \begin{figwindow}
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> ==================
>>> I tried adding the line \usepackage{floatflt} to the preamble but that did not help. I removed the caption {Run around Circle} and that made no difference. 
>>> 
>>> Can anyone point out the syntax error?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> don green dragon
>>> fergdc at shaw.ca
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> How old is the post you copied that from? It looks as though there was a problem of load order rather than use of those packages that I was discussing but I can't be sure.
>> 
>> Finally, did you try to put the drawing inside braces or in an \mbox so that it appears as a single argument? The comma in the \tikz command could be misinterpreted by the argument parser.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Herb Schulz
>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>> 
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Enclosed is a file that uses the example on page 108 of `The LaTeX Companion'. I doubled the length of the paragraph since the text width is much larger than the example given.
> 
> <picinparTest.tex>
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

And here is your example with the tikz circle (made at 40pt rather than 3 points).

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Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)




From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Tue May 27 14:09:20 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 07:09:20 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <614E6D23-8B91-45A5-A96D-A3B43FB51D2C@wideopenwest.com>
References: <mailman.1.1401130801.83677.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
 <244947BC-6936-46DD-915E-EF95456E71C1@gmail.com>
 <614E6D23-8B91-45A5-A96D-A3B43FB51D2C@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <8DB0B566-2C08-47BE-B6CA-0A69FA4E370F@wideopenwest.com>


On May 26, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 26, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 26 May 2014 12:23:35 -0500, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just installed mactex-20140524.pkg on a mid-2011 iMac running OS X 10.9.3, where mactex-2013 was already installed.
>>>> 
>>>> Three questions:
>>>> 
>>>> (1) Should TeX Live Utility still be Version 1.17, dated Oct 29, 2013? That's all I find.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>> TLU 1.17 is the still the up to date version.
>>> 
>>>> (2) When I open that app, it complains that the selected Repository is for 2013, whereas I'm using TeX Live 2014. Is there some repository to which I can point just for testing purposes (not that there would be any updates to packages yet)?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> To update you need to use one of the pretest repositories listed at <http://www.tug.org/texlive/mirmon/>. Click on a repository reasonably close to you to open that repository and then copy the address. Open TLU and the Configure->Manage Repositories; press the + and paste the repository address there. Then make that your Home repository (you change it again when MacTeX 2014 is released) by clicking the Use As Home button.
>>> 
>>>> (3) Should the version of TeXShop.app be 3.36.1 still?
>>> 
>>> TeXShop 3.36.1 is the up to date version.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Issue, related to (2) above:
>>>> 
>>>> I tried TeXing a book and am getting some "Font not found" fatal errors that I don't get if I change back to TeX Live 2013. I presume the cause is that updmap hasn't been run yet by TeX Live Utility, since I couldn't do anything with it given the repository mismatch. 
>>>> 
>>>> What should I do as a work-around until such time as I can get a legitimate TeX Live 2014 repository URL and update, which causes updmap to be run automatically?
>>>> 
>>>> Note that my local texmf tree is ~/Library/texmf.  Hence I don't want to mess things up by entering the wrong command (updmap vs. updmap-sys) as the wrong user (me vs. su) at the command line in order to update what TeX knows about my local fonts.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Where do you have your fonts; in your personal tree (starting at ~/Library/texmf) or the texmf-local tree (starting at /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local)?
>>> 
>>> Did you ever create an updmap.cfg file and place it in the proper place? If not, please download and read `TeXLive2012+Changes.pdf.zip' from <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10932738/index.html> and ask about any problems you encounter. If you already did that simply run
>>> 
>>> updmap
>>> 
>>> IFF the fonts are in your personal tree or
>>> 
>>> sudo -H updmap-sys
>>> 
>>> IFF the fonts are in the texmf-local tree.
>> 
>> OK! I chose one of the pretest repositories for TL 2014, saw there were available updates, did the update, and that ran updmap automatically. And since I still had my udmap.cfg and had the TL Utility preference checked for "Automatically enable fonts in my home directory", this took care of adding the fonts from ~/Library/texmf.  So apparently I have no need now to run the command-line utilities to update fonts.
>> 
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Ta Da! It all woks out in the end!
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Howdy,

It not only woks out in the end but also works out in the end. :-)

By the way, that update may very well be the last one for the pretest so don't expect to much any more.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From murrayeisenberg at gmail.com  Tue May 27 21:02:36 2014
From: murrayeisenberg at gmail.com (Murray Eisenberg)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:02:36 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] New Pretest Versions
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1401217201.39863.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1401217201.39863.macosx-tex@email.esm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <8C6286B4-52B0-40B2-A480-D1A472626825@gmail.com>

Yes, I inadvertently downloaded the 0524 version instead of 0525. Hand or eye must have slipped.
On 26 May 2014 13:45:44 -0700, Richard Koch <koch at math.uoregon.edu> wrote:

> I?m SLIGHTLY surprised that you discovered there were updates. TeX Live Utility doesn?t provide updates here
> and I  thought the contents of TeX Live 2014 were frozen. Might you have downloaded the 0524 version
> of MacTeX rather than the 0525 version? (Makes no difference to you since now you are up to
> date).
> 
> Dick Koch
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Murray Eisenberg <murrayeisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> OK! I chose one of the pretest repositories for TL 2014, saw there were available updates, did the update, and that ran updmap automatically. And since I still had my udmap.cfg and had the TL Utility preference checked for "Automatically enable fonts in my home directory", this took care of adding the fonts from ~/Library/texmf.  So apparently I have no need now to run the command-line utilities to update fonts.

---
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503 King Farm Blvd #101		Home (240)-246-7240
Rockville, MD 20850-6667	Mobile (413)-427-5334







From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Thu May 29 19:45:47 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:45:47 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
Message-ID: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>

I would like a symbol to represent n-dimensional objects, in fact  
tensor fields of order n, something like 
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I have looked around to no avail; worse comes to worst, I can always  
use the above pdf but I am curious.

Faintly hopeful regards
--schremmer



From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Fri May 30 00:48:19 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:48:19 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0CBE5807-659E-4711-9B95-D2070E3CC03F@ucsd.edu>


On May 29, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like a symbol to represent n-dimensional objects, in fact tensor fields of order n, something like<G^n.pdf>.
> 
> I have looked around to no avail; worse comes to worst, I can always use the above pdf but I am curious.
> 
> Faintly hopeful regards
> --schremmer

It wasn't clear to me which part of this symbol is the issue, but here's a way to generate some approximation to your symbol using standard packages rather than Apple Chancery and Helvetica-Neue.

\documentclass[11pt]{amsart}
%SetFonts
\usepackage{newtxtext} % loads helvetica as sans
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{textcomp}
\usepackage{newtxmath}
%SetFonts
\begin{document}
$\overline{\mathcal{G}}^{\mkern-1mu\raisebox{-.1ex}{\hbox{\textcircled{\textit{\textsf{n}}}}}}$
\end{document}  

Michael

From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Fri May 30 03:44:38 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 21:44:38 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <0CBE5807-659E-4711-9B95-D2070E3CC03F@ucsd.edu>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
 <0CBE5807-659E-4711-9B95-D2070E3CC03F@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <93CFAA87-BAD7-42A0-8267-6083F642EA46@gmail.com>


On May 29, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Michael Sharpe wrote:

> On May 29, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> I would like a symbol to represent n-dimensional objects, in fact  
>> tensor fields of order n, something like<G^n.pdf>.
>>
>> I have looked around to no avail; worse comes to worst, I can  
>> always use the above pdf but I am curious.
>>
>> Faintly hopeful regards
>> --schremmer
>
> It wasn't clear to me which part of this symbol is the issue,

The whole thing of course but most particularly the little circle.

> but here's a way to generate some approximation to your symbol

> using standard packages rather than Apple Chancery and Helvetica-Neue.


> \documentclass[11pt]{amsart}
> %SetFonts
> \usepackage{newtxtext} % loads helvetica as sans
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage{textcomp}
> \usepackage{newtxmath}
> %SetFonts
> \begin{document}
> $\overline{\mathcal{G}}^{\mkern-1mu\raisebox{-.1ex} 
> {\hbox{\textcircled{\textit{\textsf{n}}}}}}$
> \end{document}

The "approximation" is perfectly fine (of course).

And compare with my clunk: I assembled the characters in Intaglio, and  
used the pdf with

\newcommand{\BigGpowern}{\raisebox{-0.16em} 
{\includegraphics[scale=0.90]{BigGpowern}}} .

But here is the real question: How did you know it was Apple Chancery  
and Helvetica-Neue?

Very grateful regards
--schremmer



From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Fri May 30 04:47:09 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 19:47:09 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <93CFAA87-BAD7-42A0-8267-6083F642EA46@gmail.com>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
 <0CBE5807-659E-4711-9B95-D2070E3CC03F@ucsd.edu>
 <93CFAA87-BAD7-42A0-8267-6083F642EA46@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FF259807-F2C1-4CC6-8C77-EE3668869C8A@ucsd.edu>


On May 29, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:

> But here is the real question: How did you know it was Apple Chancery and Helvetica-Neue?

I wish I could say that my eye recognized both fonts in the way that Sherlock Holmes would have known a cigarette brand from its ash. In fact, I looked at the document properties in Adobe Reader.

Michael

From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Fri May 30 16:39:45 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 10:39:45 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <FF259807-F2C1-4CC6-8C77-EE3668869C8A@ucsd.edu>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
 <0CBE5807-659E-4711-9B95-D2070E3CC03F@ucsd.edu>
 <93CFAA87-BAD7-42A0-8267-6083F642EA46@gmail.com>
 <FF259807-F2C1-4CC6-8C77-EE3668869C8A@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <D70A225F-02FB-497D-936D-2D194421D44A@gmail.com>


On May 29, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Michael Sharpe wrote:

>
> On May 29, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> But here is the real question: How did you know it was Apple  
>> Chancery and Helvetica-Neue?
>
> I wish I could say that my eye recognized both fonts in the way that  
> Sherlock Holmes would have known a cigarette brand from its ash. In  
> fact, I looked at the document properties in Adobe Reader.

Very good!!!

(Still) very grateful regards
--schremmer


From claus.gerhardt at uni-heidelberg.de  Fri May 30 20:47:45 2014
From: claus.gerhardt at uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 20:47:45 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6F9025AD-1764-438E-8108-A3B2276473BB@uni-heidelberg.de>

Alain,

In the literature generic tensors are usually denoted by elements of the Latin or Greek alphabet like T=(T_{\al\bet}) or \eta=(\eta^i), etc. Tensor bundles with base space M are usually denoted by T^{p,q}(M); its elements are tensors of order p+q, where p is the order with respect to the contravariant indices and q with respect to the covariant indices. I wouldn't bother creating fancy symbols but rather adopt the norm.

Claus


On May 29, 2014, at 19:45, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like a symbol to represent n-dimensional objects, in fact tensor fields of order n, something like<G^n.pdf>.
> 
> I have looked around to no avail; worse comes to worst, I can always use the above pdf but I am curious.
> 
> Faintly hopeful regards
> --schremmer
> 
> 
> 
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From tmatsoukas at icloud.com  Fri May 30 20:53:06 2014
From: tmatsoukas at icloud.com (Themis Matsoukas)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 14:53:06 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Hyperref and multiple appendices
Message-ID: <DFC56361-F1F0-4693-9F40-2A67CB32DADE@icloud.com>

I hacked some code I found that places appendices as sections at the end of a chapter. The code resets the section number to zero so that the first section in the appendix of a chapter is set to 1. The problem is that the hyperref link in the table of contents is wrong and points to section 1 at the beginning of the chapter. I?m not sure how to fix this. Here is my minimal example. 

\documentclass[11pt,article]{memoir}
\usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
\usepackage{lipsum}

\newcommand{\StartApp}{\setcounter{section}{0}
\renewcommand\thesection{\Alph{section}}}
\newcommand{\EndApp}{\renewcommand\thesection{\thechapter.\arabic{section}}}

\begin{document}
\tableofcontents
\chapter{First chapter}
         \section{Introduction}
         \lipsum
\StartApp
         \section{Derivations}
         \lipsum
\EndApp
\chapter{Second chapter}

\end{document}

Themis




From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Fri May 30 22:21:40 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 16:21:40 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <6F9025AD-1764-438E-8108-A3B2276473BB@uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
 <6F9025AD-1764-438E-8108-A3B2276473BB@uni-heidelberg.de>
Message-ID: <1A1EE9B3-F8C8-4CA9-924F-5439DF4D4CB2@gmail.com>

You are of course quite right but there was a story behind that: Many,  
many years ago, I had written a piece to introduce the conservations  
laws of fluid mechanics in a way I thought would be  "more elegant".  
The other day, I looked for it to give to one of my grandsons who is  
trying to get into nano-technology without really knowing the first  
word about, say, Navier-Stokes.

Looking at it after all this time, I thought the stuff was not bad so  
I thought to see how it might go in LaTeX. I have attached the (only)  
page I did to give you an idea of the way I had gone about it. I still  
think it has merits. Maybe I will keep LaTexing it. In any case, I  
wanted to keep the "flavor".

Best regards as always
--s

On May 30, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Claus Gerhardt wrote:

> Alain,
>
> In the literature generic tensors are usually denoted by elements of  
> the Latin or Greek alphabet like T=(T_{\al\bet}) or \eta=(\eta^i),  
> etc. Tensor bundles with base space M are usually denoted by T^{p,q} 
> (M); its elements are tensors of order p+q, where p is the order  
> with respect to the contravariant indices and q with respect to the  
> covariant indices. I wouldn't bother creating fancy symbols but  
> rather adopt the norm.
>
> Claus
>
>
> On May 29, 2014, at 19:45, Alain Schremmer  
> <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like a symbol to represent n-dimensional objects, in fact  
>> tensor fields of order n, something like<G^n.pdf>.
>>
>> I have looked around to no avail; worse comes to worst, I can  
>> always use the above pdf but I am curious.
>>
>> Faintly hopeful regards
>> --schremmer
>>
>>
>>
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From ross.moore at mq.edu.au  Fri May 30 22:55:06 2014
From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 06:55:06 +1000
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <1A1EE9B3-F8C8-4CA9-924F-5439DF4D4CB2@gmail.com>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
 <6F9025AD-1764-438E-8108-A3B2276473BB@uni-heidelberg.de>
 <1A1EE9B3-F8C8-4CA9-924F-5439DF4D4CB2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3BDEDBBB-5719-4B8C-887B-3858B594AAA3@mq.edu.au>

Hi Alain.

There was no attachment.
What should it have been? A scanned image?

Cheers,
   Ross

BTW,
    I'd agree with Claus about not inventing notations, as I have said in previous threads, but reproduction of historical documents is certainly a situation where this rule can be broken, as then you are not creating a precedent for continuing use of that notation.


On 31/05/2014, at 6:21, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:

> You are of course quite right but there was a story behind that: Many, many years ago, I had written a piece to introduce the conservations laws of fluid mechanics in a way I thought would be  "more elegant". The other day, I looked for it to give to one of my grandsons who is trying to get into nano-technology without really knowing the first word about, say, Navier-Stokes.
> 
> Looking at it after all this time, I thought the stuff was not bad so I thought to see how it might go in LaTeX. I have attached the (only) page I did to give you an idea of the way I had gone about it. I still think it has merits. Maybe I will keep LaTexing it. In any case, I wanted to keep the "flavor".
> 
> Best regards as always
> --s



From nestoreaguilera at gmail.com  Fri May 30 23:51:40 2014
From: nestoreaguilera at gmail.com (Nestor E. Aguilera)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 18:51:40 -0300
Subject: [OS X TeX] Hyperref and multiple appendices
In-Reply-To: <DFC56361-F1F0-4693-9F40-2A67CB32DADE@icloud.com>
References: <DFC56361-F1F0-4693-9F40-2A67CB32DADE@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <C5752BCF-76B1-48C5-94AE-76688AC728E2@gmail.com>


On 30 May 2014, at 15:53, Themis Matsoukas wrote:

> I hacked some code I found that places appendices as sections at the end of a chapter. The code resets the section number to zero so that the first section in the appendix of a chapter is set to 1. The problem is that the hyperref link in the table of contents is wrong and points to section 1 at the beginning of the chapter. I?m not sure how to fix this. Here is my minimal example. 
> 
> \documentclass[11pt,article]{memoir}
> \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
> \usepackage{lipsum}
> 
> \newcommand{\StartApp}{\setcounter{section}{0}
> \renewcommand\thesection{\Alph{section}}}
> \newcommand{\EndApp}{\renewcommand\thesection{\thechapter.\arabic{section}}}
> 
> \begin{document}
> \tableofcontents
> \chapter{First chapter}
>         \section{Introduction}
>         \lipsum
> \StartApp
>         \section{Derivations}
>         \lipsum
> \EndApp
> \chapter{Second chapter}
> 
> \end{document}
> 
> Themis

Have you looked into the "appendix" package?

Nestor




From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Sat May 31 02:15:29 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 20:15:29 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <3BDEDBBB-5719-4B8C-887B-3858B594AAA3@mq.edu.au>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
 <6F9025AD-1764-438E-8108-A3B2276473BB@uni-heidelberg.de>
 <1A1EE9B3-F8C8-4CA9-924F-5439DF4D4CB2@gmail.com>
 <3BDEDBBB-5719-4B8C-887B-3858B594AAA3@mq.edu.au>
Message-ID: <85F44250-2909-4FA1-99AD-AFA904DD62D8@gmail.com>


On May 30, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Ross Moore wrote:

> Hi Alain.
>
> There was no attachment.
> What should it have been? A scanned image?
>
> Cheers,
>   Ross
>
> BTW,
>    I'd agree with Claus about not inventing notations

So do I as I already confessed. :-))

> , as I have said in previous threads, but reproduction of historical  
> documents is certainly a situation where this rule can be broken, as  
> then you are not creating a precedent for continuing use of that  
> notation.

As for that, I have been out of fluid mechanics for half a century but  
back then, at least as I recall, we used an overline for coordinate- 
free notation of vectors and a double overline for second order  
tensors etc but I can't remember how we distinguished contravariance  
from covariance. In any case, the overline circle n was, I think, my  
generalization so as to deal in a uniform way with mass, momentum and  
energy as well as with both the Lagrange and Euler descriptions.

And here, Ladies and Gentlemen, is the only extant LaTexed page of the  
historical document---which I had certainly not meant to inflict on  
this list. That it was mentioned on this list was the result of a  
comedy of errors.

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(The symbol at the beginning is the one Sharpe posted the recipe of.)

Best regards
--schremmer



From tmatsoukas at icloud.com  Sat May 31 03:51:18 2014
From: tmatsoukas at icloud.com (Themis Matsoukas)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 21:51:18 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Hyperref and multiple appendices
In-Reply-To: <C5752BCF-76B1-48C5-94AE-76688AC728E2@gmail.com>
References: <DFC56361-F1F0-4693-9F40-2A67CB32DADE@icloud.com>
 <C5752BCF-76B1-48C5-94AE-76688AC728E2@gmail.com>
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On May 30, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Nestor E. Aguilera <nestoreaguilera at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Have you looked into the "appendix" package?
> 

Nestor,

Indeed this solved my problem. The appendix package offers a subappendices environment that does exactly what I need.

Thanks!

Themis


From msharpe at ucsd.edu  Sat May 31 08:27:46 2014
From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 23:27:46 -0700
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <1A1EE9B3-F8C8-4CA9-924F-5439DF4D4CB2@gmail.com>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
 <6F9025AD-1764-438E-8108-A3B2276473BB@uni-heidelberg.de>
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On May 30, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:

> You are of course quite right but there was a story behind that: Many, many years ago, I had written a piece to introduce the conservations laws of fluid mechanics in a way I thought would be  "more elegant". The other day, I looked for it to give to one of my grandsons who is trying to get into nano-technology without really knowing the first word about, say, Navier-Stokes.
> 
> Looking at it after all this time, I thought the stuff was not bad so I thought to see how it might go in LaTeX. I have attached the (only) page I did to give you an idea of the way I had gone about it. I still think it has merits. Maybe I will keep LaTexing it. In any case, I wanted to keep the "flavor".
> 
> Best regards as always
> --s
> 
> On May 30, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Claus Gerhardt wrote:
> 
>> Alain,
>> 
>> In the literature generic tensors are usually denoted by elements of the Latin or Greek alphabet like T=(T_{\al\bet}) or \eta=(\eta^i), etc. Tensor bundles with base space M are usually denoted by T^{p,q}(M); its elements are tensors of order p+q, where p is the order with respect to the contravariant indices and q with respect to the covariant indices. I wouldn't bother creating fancy symbols but rather adopt the norm.
>> 
>> Claus
>> 
>> 
>> On May 29, 2014, at 19:45, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would like a symbol to represent n-dimensional objects, in fact tensor fields of order n, something like<G^n.pdf>.
>>> 
>>> I have looked around to no avail; worse comes to worst, I can always use the above pdf but I am curious.
>>> 
>>> Faintly hopeful regards
>>> --schremmer
>>> 
>>> 

Alain's query raises a point I think is very important. Those of us now in our advanced years were educated when it was not always easy to disseminate work which was incomplete or excursive, however original. Documents, sometimes handwritten, sometimes typed in pseudo-math mode,  survive in some cases in the form of "lecture notes" that are highly valued by experts, copied  only to their students, and therefore at risk of being lost to future generations of mathematicians outside the mainstream. I think those of our generation should do what they can to preserve those lecture notes by publishing them as pdf web documents with added commentaries and links to  later relevant work so that mathematical history may benefit from our soon-to-be extinct knowledge. In most cases, this will require a scan of the original plus annotations.

Michael
. 

From Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu  Sat May 31 13:37:54 2014
From: Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu (Nitecki, Zbigniew H.)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:37:54 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] \input and Texroot
Message-ID: <80A5E923-324E-440E-91A4-9846E9817AE5@tufts.edu>

I am experiencing a problem for which I don't know how to provide a minimal example, and have no idea even where to look for a cause.
I have been working on a book for some time, in which the individual sections are in separate files, named <section>.tex, and the accompanying exercises in files named <section>.ex.tex.  The master file, CalcThree.tex, calls them via \input{<section>}
(resp. \input{<section>.ex}).  Each of the individual files starts with
%!TEX root =  CalcThree.tex

All of these are in a single folder.
I had a fully functioning version of this book, but need to do a major rewrite/revision.  So I created a new folder, and am one-by-one duplicating the section files, moving it to the new folder, renaming the file <section>.tex copy (reps. <section>.ex.tex) as  <section>14.tex (resp. <section>14.ex.tex), changing the root to
%!TEX root =  CalcThree14.tex
changing my \input calls, and doing my revisions there.

All was going fine until I got to the exercises for the fourth section, originally in file dot.ex.tex.  I have the following weird situation: if I hit the "Typeset" tab from file dot14.ex.tex, the compiler works away on compiling the book until it gets to \input{dot14.ex} where it stops and gives me the error message: can't find file dot14.ex.  Same if I typeset from CalcThree14.tex.

What can possibly be going on, or more to the point, how can I work around this?  I've tried various versions of explicitly adding the .tex to calls, renaming the file, etc., all to no avail.


Zbigniew Nitecki
Department of Mathematics
Tufts University
Medford, MA 02155

telephones:
Office    (617)627-3843
Dept.    (617)627-3234
Dept. fax    (617)627-3966
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From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Sat May 31 15:21:44 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 09:21:44 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] \input and Texroot
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References: <80A5E923-324E-440E-91A4-9846E9817AE5@tufts.edu>
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On May 31, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. wrote:

> I am experiencing a problem for which I don't know how to provide a  
> minimal example, and have no idea even where to look for a cause.
> I have been working on a book for some time, in which the individual  
> sections are in separate files, named <section>.tex, and the  
> accompanying exercises in files named <section>.ex.tex.  The master  
> file, CalcThree.tex, calls them via \input{<section>}
> (resp. \input{<section>.ex}).  Each of the individual files starts  
> with
>> %!TEX root =  CalcThree.tex
>
>
> All of these are in a single folder.
> I had a fully functioning version of this book, but need to do a  
> major rewrite/revision.  So I created a new folder, and am one-by- 
> one duplicating the section files, moving it to the new folder,  
> renaming the file <section>.tex copy (reps. <section>.ex.tex) as   
> <section>14.tex (resp. <section>14.ex.tex), changing the root to
>> %!TEX root =  CalcThree14.tex
> changing my \input calls, and doing my revisions there.
>
> All was going fine until I got to the exercises for the fourth  
> section, originally in file dot.ex.tex.  I have the following weird  
> situation: if I hit the "Typeset" tab from file dot14.ex.tex, the  
> compiler works away on compiling the book until it gets to  
> \input{dot14.ex} where it stops and gives me the error message:  
> can't find file dot14.ex.  Same if I typeset from CalcThree14.tex.
>
> What can possibly be going on, or more to the point, how can I work  
> around this?  I've tried various versions of explicitly adding  
> the .tex to calls, renaming the file, etc., all to no avail.

This person has of course no idea but in somewhat similar situations,  
what I have done is to give up and make a new copy of the functioning  
version etc. Not a very scientific approach of course but it has  
worked each time.  :-(

By the way, I am curious as to why you duplicated the sections one by  
one rather than duplicate the whole folder.

Regards
-schremmer



From herbs at wideopenwest.com  Sat May 31 15:36:58 2014
From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 08:36:58 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] \input and Texroot
In-Reply-To: <80A5E923-324E-440E-91A4-9846E9817AE5@tufts.edu>
References: <80A5E923-324E-440E-91A4-9846E9817AE5@tufts.edu>
Message-ID: <D5055B38-26EC-468B-A997-1D19ADA1B50D@wideopenwest.com>


On May 31, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu> wrote:

> I am experiencing a problem for which I don't know how to provide a minimal example, and have no idea even where to look for a cause.
> I have been working on a book for some time, in which the individual sections are in separate files, named <section>.tex, and the accompanying exercises in files named <section>.ex.tex.  The master file, CalcThree.tex, calls them via \input{<section>}
> (resp. \input{<section>.ex}).  Each of the individual files starts with
>> %!TEX root =  CalcThree.tex
> 
> All of these are in a single folder.
> I had a fully functioning version of this book, but need to do a major rewrite/revision.  So I created a new folder, and am one-by-one duplicating the section files, moving it to the new folder, renaming the file <section>.tex copy (reps. <section>.ex.tex) as  <section>14.tex (resp. <section>14.ex.tex), changing the root to
>> %!TEX root =  CalcThree14.tex
> changing my \input calls, and doing my revisions there.
> 
> All was going fine until I got to the exercises for the fourth section, originally in file dot.ex.tex.  I have the following weird situation: if I hit the "Typeset" tab from file dot14.ex.tex, the compiler works away on compiling the book until it gets to \input{dot14.ex} where it stops and gives me the error message: can't find file dot14.ex.  Same if I typeset from CalcThree14.tex.
> 
> What can possibly be going on, or more to the point, how can I work around this?  I've tried various versions of explicitly adding the .tex to calls, renaming the file, etc., all to no avail.
> 
> 
> Zbigniew Nitecki
> Department of Mathematics
> Tufts University
> Medford, MA 02155
> 
> telephones:
> Office    (617)627-3843
> Dept.    (617)627-3234
> Dept. fax    (617)627-3966
> http://www.tufts.edu/~znitecki/

Howdy,

Are all the \input commands in the root file or is the \input file for the exercises in the section file? If you ``typeset'' the section file does it go through? I also wonder why you didn't just duplicate the whole folder. Also, while it shouldn't make a difference, it is bad practice to use a period as part of the file name; something like <section>.tex and <section>X.tex would be better. Finally, you say you tried to change the file name, how about making sure the \input command is correct without extra characters.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)





From schremmer.alain at gmail.com  Sat May 31 15:38:01 2014
From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 09:38:01 -0400
Subject: [OS X TeX] Intrinsic tensors
In-Reply-To: <0FF2000C-C02A-4883-91BE-44B37A30F3E6@ucsd.edu>
References: <FE5BB6B0-8832-4EF5-A52F-6DE2A722CC34@gmail.com>
 <6F9025AD-1764-438E-8108-A3B2276473BB@uni-heidelberg.de>
 <1A1EE9B3-F8C8-4CA9-924F-5439DF4D4CB2@gmail.com>
 <0FF2000C-C02A-4883-91BE-44B37A30F3E6@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <037CE6C2-DC84-44A7-817E-02FFBFDE04C1@gmail.com>


On May 31, 2014, at 2:27 AM, Michael Sharpe wrote:

> Alain's query raises a point I think is very important. Those of us  
> now in our advanced years were educated when it was not always easy  
> to disseminate work which was incomplete or excursive, however  
> original. Documents, sometimes handwritten, sometimes typed in  
> pseudo-math mode,  survive in some cases in the form of "lecture  
> notes" that are highly valued by experts, copied  only to their  
> students, and therefore at risk of being lost to future generations  
> of mathematicians outside the mainstream. I think those of our  
> generation should do what they can to preserve those lecture notes  
> by publishing them as pdf web documents with added commentaries and  
> links to  later relevant work so that mathematical history may  
> benefit from our soon-to-be extinct knowledge. In most cases, this  
> will require a scan of the original plus annotations.

And therein lies the difficulty. I once tried to scan my very first  
book---from the time we thought "small presses" were a godsend which  
they were but short-lived---and thought I would die of boredom. It was  
a bit the same as with running on a treadmill and I gave up the one as  
I had the other.

Best regards
--schremmer




From Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu  Sat May 31 16:35:07 2014
From: Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu (Nitecki, Zbigniew H.)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 14:35:07 +0000
Subject: [OS X TeX] \input and Texroot
In-Reply-To: <54E910B4-EF3A-4696-9DC4-940B784652E2@gmail.com>
References: <80A5E923-324E-440E-91A4-9846E9817AE5@tufts.edu>,
 <54E910B4-EF3A-4696-9DC4-940B784652E2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E543AEA0-201D-44F8-9B8B-134167FC40CC@tufts.edu>

Thanks to you and Herbert (and Dave Derbes) for your responses.  It seems no one has an idea what is going on, and I will just have to schlep along as best I can

To answer two questions: 
I copied one file at a time because this way I easily keep track of where I am in my initial revision process. 
All sections (including exercise files) are called directly from the central file. 

My primary puzzlement is that the first three sections (including exercises) behave exactly as expected. And I have checked extensively for typos in the file names. 

Z

Sent from my iPad

> On May 31, 2014, at 9:25 AM, "Alain Schremmer" <schremmer.alain at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. wrote:
>> 
>> I am experiencing a problem for which I don't know how to provide a minimal example, and have no idea even where to look for a cause.
>> I have been working on a book for some time, in which the individual sections are in separate files, named <section>.tex, and the accompanying exercises in files named <section>.ex.tex.  The master file, CalcThree.tex, calls them via \input{<section>}
>> (resp. \input{<section>.ex}).  Each of the individual files starts with
>>> %!TEX root =  CalcThree.tex
>> 
>> 
>> All of these are in a single folder.
>> I had a fully functioning version of this book, but need to do a major rewrite/revision.  So I created a new folder, and am one-by-one duplicating the section files, moving it to the new folder, renaming the file <section>.tex copy (reps. <section>.ex.tex) as  <section>14.tex (resp. <section>14.ex.tex), changing the root to
>>> %!TEX root =  CalcThree14.tex
>> changing my \input calls, and doing my revisions there.
>> 
>> All was going fine until I got to the exercises for the fourth section, originally in file dot.ex.tex.  I have the following weird situation: if I hit the "Typeset" tab from file dot14.ex.tex, the compiler works away on compiling the book until it gets to \input{dot14.ex} where it stops and gives me the error message: can't find file dot14.ex.  Same if I typeset from CalcThree14.tex.
>> 
>> What can possibly be going on, or more to the point, how can I work around this?  I've tried various versions of explicitly adding the .tex to calls, renaming the file, etc., all to no avail.
> 
> This person has of course no idea but in somewhat similar situations, what I have done is to give up and make a new copy of the functioning version etc. Not a very scientific approach of course but it has worked each time.  :-(
> 
> By the way, I am curious as to why you duplicated the sections one by one rather than duplicate the whole folder.
> 
> Regards
> -schremmer
> 
> 
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From loki at uchicago.edu  Sat May 31 17:03:22 2014
From: loki at uchicago.edu (David Derbes)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 10:03:22 -0500
Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] LaTeXing lecture notes
Message-ID: <A4E1A2DE-1C7D-4765-B854-8DB16013086D@uchicago.edu>

This is following on from the thread "Intrinsic tensors".

On May 31, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote:

> 
> On May 31, 2014, at 2:27 AM, Michael Sharpe wrote:
> 
>> Alain's query raises a point I think is very important. Those of us now in our advanced years were educated when it was not always easy to disseminate work which was incomplete or excursive, however original. Documents, sometimes handwritten, sometimes typed in pseudo-math mode,  survive in some cases in the form of "lecture notes" that are highly valued by experts, copied  only to their students, and therefore at risk of being lost to future generations of mathematicians outside the mainstream. I think those of our generation should do what they can to preserve those lecture notes by publishing them as pdf web documents with added commentaries and links to  later relevant work so that mathematical history may benefit from our soon-to-be extinct knowledge. In most cases, this will require a scan of the original plus annotations.
> 
> And therein lies the difficulty. I once tried to scan my very first book---from the time we thought "small presses" were a godsend which they were but short-lived---and thought I would die of boredom. It was a bit the same as with running on a treadmill and I gave up the one as I had the other.
> 
> Best regards
> --schremmer

To follow up on Michael's post, the sort of stuff he wants to happen is happening. Some years ago Daniel F. Styer went carefully through the old (and out of print) classic by Richard Feynman and Albert Hibbs, Quantum Mechanics and Path Integrals, and (I think) retyped it in LaTeX. It's now out in Dover. Michael Gottlieb did the same with the Feynman Lectures, which are now on line in their entirety at Caltech. I did this with Freeman Dyson's Cornell lectures on quantum electrodynamics, now up at the arXiv and published by World Scientific, and also, with the enormous help of my friend and co-conspirator Bob Jantzen of Villanova, the wonderful and eccentric The Einstein Theory of Relativity by Lillian Lieber. I'm working on another project with a bunch of people I'll keep quiet a little longer, but it's an attempt to provide a book from notes that the community ought to have. It, too, will go on line. Bob did incredible service to the math community by LaTeXing and posting The Oral History of the Mathematics Community at Princeton in the 1930s. Fabulous stuff. Don't go there unless you are willing to sacrifice several hours in compulsive reading. 

I can't say every university has these archives, but I know Princeton has copies of many, many lecture notes from people like Bargmann, Wigner, Wheeler, Peebles and many other geniuses who taught there. It would be wonderful if retired mathematicians and physicists took on, as a retirement hobby, the LaTeXing and posting of these notes. Very probably Dover or World Scientific would be interested in publishing them, though the important thing is to keep them from vanishing. Of course the first thing to do is to get the permission of the original writer of the notes, if he or she is still alive, or from their heirs and survivors if not. But assuming such permission is forthcoming, there is a lot to be gained. (An idle thought: Might Emmy Noether's Bryn Mawr notes be yellowing somewhere?) 

Anyway, if you're nearing retirement and looking for interesting and valuable volunteer work, I think you could do worse than follow Michael's suggestion. 

David Derbes
U of Chicago Laboratory Schools

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From claus.gerhardt at uni-heidelberg.de  Sat May 31 17:48:27 2014
From: claus.gerhardt at uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 17:48:27 +0200
Subject: [OS X TeX] \input and Texroot
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I recommend to duplicate the original folder, highlight the folder and hit command-d, then rename the duplicated folder to your liking but leave its contents unchanged. Then you should have a working set up.

Claus


On May 31, 2014, at 13:37, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu> wrote:

> I am experiencing a problem for which I don't know how to provide a minimal example, and have no idea even where to look for a cause.
> I have been working on a book for some time, in which the individual sections are in separate files, named <section>.tex, and the accompanying exercises in files named <section>.ex.tex.  The master file, CalcThree.tex, calls them via \input{<section>}
> (resp. \input{<section>.ex}).  Each of the individual files starts with
>> %!TEX root =  CalcThree.tex
> 
> 
> All of these are in a single folder.
> I had a fully functioning version of this book, but need to do a major rewrite/revision.  So I created a new folder, and am one-by-one duplicating the section files, moving it to the new folder, renaming the file <section>.tex copy (reps. <section>.ex.tex) as  <section>14.tex (resp. <section>14.ex.tex), changing the root to
>> %!TEX root =  CalcThree14.tex
> changing my \input calls, and doing my revisions there.
> 
> All was going fine until I got to the exercises for the fourth section, originally in file dot.ex.tex.  I have the following weird situation: if I hit the "Typeset" tab from file dot14.ex.tex, the compiler works away on compiling the book until it gets to \input{dot14.ex} where it stops and gives me the error message: can't find file dot14.ex.  Same if I typeset from CalcThree14.tex.
> 
> What can possibly be going on, or more to the point, how can I work around this?  I've tried various versions of explicitly adding the .tex to calls, renaming the file, etc., all to no avail.
> 
> 
> Zbigniew Nitecki
> Department of Mathematics
> Tufts University
> Medford, MA 02155
> 
> telephones:
> Office    (617)627-3843
> Dept.    (617)627-3234
> Dept. fax    (617)627-3966
> http://www.tufts.edu/~znitecki/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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