[OS X TeX] Lost floats

Nitecki, Zbigniew H. Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu
Wed Aug 20 20:30:44 CEST 2014


I haven't, but to be honest I am highly skeptical of trying to fix a complex problem by making things more complex.
My latest is that (after workarounds for earlier things that triggered the lost floats) the floats get lost when I follow the expression
$y=\pm x$ with the line "which are the common asymptotes of each of these hyperbolas."  Comment the line out, the floats return; uncomment it, they disappear.

I am coming back to an earlier suggestion, that it has to do with minipages.  I don't think I have explicitly used mini pages, but the floats that sometimes go missing do have sub floats which I imagine are mini pages.  If so, what is the fix? (Again, I don't understand what is wrong with them if they sometimes do--even though sometimes they don't--work fine.)
On Aug 20, 2014, at 14:18, Manfred Braun <manfred.braun at uni-due.de<mailto:manfred.braun at uni-due.de>>
 wrote:

Did you try the placeins.sty package? Maybe it helps to get some partial control on the placement of floats.

Manfred

On 20.08.2014, at 20:59, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. wrote:

Thanks for the (encouraging?) suggestion.  I may try it.  At the moment, by rewriting the equation* as an inline equation (via $…$) and simply eliminating the first, offending \item in my list, I am able to make do--but still am in the dark as to how I can
avoid this problem in the future.

Ziggy N

On Aug 20, 2014, at 13:50, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com<mailto:schremmer.alain at gmail.com>>
 wrote:

I have of course no idea of what the problem might be---if only because I don't use floats, but when I have an error that does not make sense to me, I try to "re-construct".

Yesterday, something like that happened to me: There was a lone dot in the middle of a blank space and when I removed it, it wouldn't compile!!! And the error was given to be a hundred lines down the pike.

Commenting out the whole section, it would compile. Uncommenting piece by piece did not work. Either it compiled or it did not and the error was still given to be a hundred lines down the pike. It seemed to be the dot and only the dot.

What I finally do in such case is to "re-construct". The idea is to *copy only pure text*. Any construction, I redo from scratch. If there is, say, an itemization, I insert a blank itemization in which I then enter, one by one, pieces of *pure text* from the commented-out itemization.

It's a real chore but ... it worked. And I still don't know how that lone dot was doing it.

Regards
--schremmer


On Aug 20, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. wrote:

It doesn't make sense to me, since it is only certain specific items (one particular equation* environment, but not other, longer ones;  one particular \item, but not other longer ones) that cause the problem.  At Nestor Aguilera's suggestion, I tried changing the floats themselves from an [htbp] option to just [p], but this didn't have any effect.
Z
On Aug 20, 2014, at 12:18, George Gratzer <gratzer at me.com<mailto:gratzer at me.com>>
 wrote:

Could it be a spacing problem? Delete something and then there is room for the floats?

GG

On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu<mailto:Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu>> wrote:

OK, I'll hunt for that.  But hen why would it work OK if the equation* environment in one place and the one \item (but not the others in the same list) is commented out?
On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:37, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com<mailto:herbs at wideopenwest.com>>
 wrote:


On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu<mailto:Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu>> wrote:

Even more curious.  If I comment out the text for the equation* environment, the floats continue to disappear (so it is not the actual material inside the equation*).  When I replace the equation* environment with in-line equation (i.e., $…$), with the content of the equation* included,  the floats reappear.

Now, uncommenting more, later material (including some other equation* environments), all goes well, until I come to a list: an "itemize" environment, with several items.  Most of these items have no effect on the floats (i.e., they don't disappear), except for a single item
\item The statement that $\Levof{f}{c}\cap R$ is the graph of \phiof{x} means that the function
\phiof{x} is uniquely determined by \refer{eqn}{implicitfunct}.
(I am no longer trying to replace the macros here with their definitions, because in the past the content appeared not to be the problem. ) If the itemize environment has only this item, the floats disappear.  If I comment this out but include the other 3-4 items, the floats reappear.  And if then I again uncomment the single item (leaving the others uncommented)  the floats disappear again.

"What a long, strange trip…"
On Aug 20, 2014, at 10:29, "Nitecki, Zbigniew H." <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu<mailto:Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu>>
wrote:

Help!
I have no idea even how to approach this problem.
I am getting lost floats messages (which I did not get before) when I include in my text (a few pages before the given floats) the following totally innocuous equation:
*************************************************
\begin{equation*}
g_{a}(y_{0}-\delta_{2})<0<g_{a}(y_{0}+\delta_{2})
\end{equation*}
****************************************************
and when I comment out just this equation the floats no longer disappear.
What can possibly be causing this kind of behavior?

Z
On Aug 18, 2014, at 17:23, "Nitecki, Zbigniew H." <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu<mailto:Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu>> wrote:

I am totally dumbfounded on this.
I totally commented out everything I had been tinkering with, and the floats worked fine.  Then I started uncommenting bits;  I narrowed at least one source of the problem to the following equation:
\begin{equation*}
\gsof{a}{\yso-\delts{2}}<0<\gsof{a}{\yso+\delts{2}}
\end{equation*}
and have dredged up all the definitions of the macros used in it:
\newcommand{\gsof}[2]{\ensuremath{\subof{g}{#1}{#2}}}% subscripted function g
\newcommand{\subof}[3]{\of{#1_{#2}}{#3}}%subscripted function of
\newcommand{\ys}[1]{\ensuremath{y_{#1}}}%subscripted y
\newcommand{\yso}{\ys{0}}
\newcommand{\delts}[1]{\ensuremath{\delta_{#1}}}%subscripted delta

Nothing unusual that I can see.  But this is at least one of the culprits: when I comment out this equation, the floats all work fine.  When I then uncomment JUST those three lines (the equation) from what just worked, two of the floats get lost.

Huh????

Z
On Aug 18, 2014, at 15:33, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com<mailto:herbs at wideopenwest.com>>
wrote:


On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu<mailto:Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu>> wrote:

I'm encountering a rather disastrous problem for which I can't provide a minimal example, since it is the maximal structure that seems to be causing it.  I'm asking for suggestions on how to trouble shoot it.
Here is the situation:  I am revising a large book project, and in particular I have a set of pst-3D pictures set up in complicated floats (with sub floats, etc).  These have never caused problems until just now.  I was tinkering with some text several pages before these floats when I started getting the error message "Floats lost".  I tried to track down what was causing this problem, and ultimately commented out the whole section of text (which has no direct connection to the floats in question--they are in a different section  ) which resulted in still getting the error message, but the floats which get lost seem to vary with what I comment out in the text.  (That is, some lost ones reappear, but others disappear) I have no idea how to proceed from here, since anything that might have been embedded in the text I was tinkering with has been commented out, and before I started tinkering there was no error message.

I seemed to recall that in the previous version of this book project I ran into some problems having to do with memory--I think--and it was resolved by following each of these megafloats with the line "\afterpage{\clearpage}".  I found one of these commented out in my present version and restored it--again changing which floats get lost, but not the fact that some are always being lost.

Any ideas?

Zbigniew Nitecki
Department of Mathematics
Tufts University
Medford, MA 02155

Howdy,

My first guess (and it's only a guess) is that LaTeX can't find an ``acceptable'' location for the floats because of the added text. I'm not sure how you fix that but others here should be able to help.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Zbigniew Nitecki
Department of Mathematics
Tufts University
Medford, MA 02155


Zbigniew Nitecki
Department of Mathematics
Tufts University
Medford, MA 02155


Zbigniew Nitecki
Department of Mathematics
Tufts University
Medford, MA 02155

Howdy,

Now it's beginning to sound like a list environment of some sort that isn't being closed; i.e., no \end{...}.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)




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