[OS X TeX] Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #1759 - 06/11/06

Ben Tipping btipping at fas.harvard.edu
Sun Jun 18 16:08:00 CEST 2006


I will be out of my office from 8 June 2006 to 20 June 2006 inclusive.

On Jun 11, 2006, at 8:00 PM, "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List"  
<MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:

> MacOSX-TeX Digest #1759 - Sunday, June 11, 2006
>
>   (no subject)
>           by "jkock" <jkock at start.no>
>   Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Location of print spool files
>           by "Peter Erwin" <erwin at mpe.mpg.de>
>   Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Location of print spool files
>           by "Maarten Sneep" <maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl>
>   Re: TeXShop refresh
>           by "jkock" <jkock at start.no>
>   Re: [OS X TeX]
>           by "Herbert Schulz" <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
>   Using includegraphics
>           by "Marcus Michalsky" <mmichalsky at gmx.de>
>   Re: [OS X TeX] Using includegraphics
>           by "Peter Dyballa" <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
>   Re: [OS X TeX] Using includegraphics
>           by "Maarten Sneep" <maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl>
>   Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Location of print spool files
>           by "Peter Dyballa" <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
>   Re: [OS X TeX] Was: Newbie questions, now ReadMe.html
>           by "Peter Dyballa" <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
>   Re: [OS X TeX] Upright digits in theorems
>           by "Timothy Van Zandt" <tvz1 at zandtwerk.org>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> From: "jkock" <jkock at start.no>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:22:32 +0200 (CEST)
>
> Samuel wrote:
>
>> Not sure whether that's the new TeXShop or the new Alpha, but
>> when I typeset mydocument.tex (using Alpha's interface) with
>> mydocument.pdf already being displayed in TeXShop, the display
>> no longer gets updated.
>> I now have to close the pdf before typesetting is complete in
>> order to have the updated pdf open in TeXShop (very nicely it
>> opens with the same window settings though).
>> (I'm using TeXShop 2.10, AlphaX 8.0.2, Mac OS X 10.4.6.)
>>
>> SL
>
> Pete wrote:
>
>> With GNU Emacs and AUCTeX it still works.
>
>
> Hello Samuel, hello Pete,
>
> thanks for the reports, I would like to look into this and see if I can
> sort it out.  The interaction between Alpha and TeXShop is crucial to  
> my
> own work, and luckily everything works flawlessly for me.  But since
> I do not have OSX 10.4, I have to work with TeXShop Version 1.35  
> (v1.35e).
>
> The Alpha version you mention is well-known: it is the one that was
> released after several years of beta testing, and after one year in  
> code
> freeze.  (Personally I laugh at that release, because it took so long  
> to
> get out, but at least it is considered very stable.)
>
> As to the TeXShop version, do you mean 2.10beta? the new beta release,
> which is full of internal reorganisation, and known to have some
> transitional problems?
>
> Did you try other combinations, like for example the old Alpha you
> had, calling the new TeXShop beta, or the new Alpha calling the old
> TeXShop?
>
> Sorry for asking silly questions, but can you confirm that the  
> following
> TeXShop preferences are checked:  ConfigureForExternalEditor and
> AutomaticPreviewUpdate ?
>
>
> Pete, I know you are a power emacs user -- would you look in the
> appropriate .el file and report how emacs calls TeXShop?  As you can  
> guess
> from my remarks above, I suspect the error is with TeXShop 2.10b, so  
> if the
> refresh still works with emacs, it must be because Alpha and emacs call
> TeXShop in different ways.  (Or it can be because you two have some
> difference in TeXShop setup...)
>
> Alpha calls TeXShop via [exec open -a TeXShop], and then explicitly
> refreshes it by sending an 'Rrdf' Apple event to TeXShop.  (This last
> step should not really be necessary, since TeXShop is supposed to  
> refresh
> automatically, but for backward compatibility with some older TeXShop
> versions the refresh is also sent explicitly.)
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Cheers,
> Joachim.
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Location of print spool files
> From: "Peter Erwin" <erwin at mpe.mpg.de>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:24:57 +0200
>
> At 1:09 AM +0200 6/11/06, Peter Dyballa wrote:
>> Am 11.06.2006 um 00:45 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
>>
>>>  Did I make a basic error of syntax, or is it the "lp" owner of the
>>> cups directory that is impervious to sudo?
>>
>> Twice: no!
>>
>> The reason is that cd is a shell built-in command, so you can't
>> 'sudo' it, even sudo -H -u root wouldn't change this. X11 would be a
>> help: 'sudo -H xterm <possible arguments>' would launch an xterm and
>> its user would be root -- you even can invoke it with -ls, i.e. with
>> a login shell in xterm.
>
> "ls" and "rm" are Unix programs (unlike "cd"), so they *do* respond to  
> sudo.
> So if all you want to do is take a look in /var/spool/cups, you can do  
> this:
>
> $ sudo ls /var/spool/cups
>
> And if you identify a file that you want to remove:
>
> $ sudo rm /path/to/offending_file
>
> (where "/path/to/" might be /var/spool/cups/tmp/ in your case...)
>
> cheers,
>
> Peter
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Location of print spool files
> From: "Maarten Sneep" <maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:47 +0200
>
> On 11 Jun 2006, at 1:09, Peter Dyballa wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 11.06.2006 um 00:45 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
>>
>>> Did I make a basic error of syntax, or is it the "lp" owner of the
>>> cups directory that is impervious to sudo?
>>
>> Twice: no!
>>
>> The reason is that cd is a shell built-in command, so you can't
>> 'sudo' it, even sudo -H -u root wouldn't change this. X11 would be
>> a help: 'sudo -H xterm <possible arguments>' would launch an xterm
>> and its user would be root -- you even can invoke it with -ls, i.e.
>> with a login shell in xterm.
>
> Even better: start a shell as super user: sudo -H bash (or sudo -H
> tcsh). No need for all those big programs.
>
> Maarten
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: TeXShop refresh
> From: "jkock" <jkock at start.no>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:46:17 +0200 (CEST)
>
> Hello again,
>
> I apologise that my previous message was sent with empty subject -- I  
> don't
> know how it happened.
>
> Pete points out to me off list, that refreshing displayed pdf is the  
> task
> of the viewer (TeXShop in this case), not the task of the editor or the
> typesetting script (Alpha in this case).  Hence it seems the problem  
> described
> by Samuel is not an Alpha problem.
>
> Pete also points out that the last version of TeXShop which runs on
> pre-10.4 systems is 1.43, not 1.35 as I thought.  Sorry for the noise.
>
> Cheers,
> Joachim.
>
>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX]
> From: "Herbert Schulz" <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:03:33 -0500
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2006, at 4:22 AM, jkock wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Samuel, hello Pete,
>>
>> thanks for the reports, I would like to look into this and see if I
>> can
>> sort it out.  The interaction between Alpha and TeXShop is crucial
>> to my
>> own work, and luckily everything works flawlessly for me.  But since
>> I do not have OSX 10.4, I have to work with TeXShop Version 1.35
>> (v1.35e).
>> ...
>
> Howdy,
>
> Is there some reason you can't work with TeXShop 1.43? Just curious.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest.com)
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Using includegraphics
> From: "Marcus Michalsky" <mmichalsky at gmx.de>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:15:06 +0200
>
> Hey List,
>
> I write a report for a practical course mobile communications.
>
> I will include some images.
>
> I use
>
> \usepackage[dvips]{graphics}
>
> and
>
> \begin{figure}
>    \begin{center}
>    \scalebox{.4}{\includegraphics{gfx/rtscts.ps}}
>    \caption{RTS/CTS}
>    \label{rtscts}
>    \end{center}
> \end{figure}
>
> So far so good, BUT !!!!! All of the images appear on the top of the
> page, no matter where i define them.
> All go to the top of the page. is there an option to make them
> appear, where I had defined them ?
>
> Thx so far
> And a nice Fifa WM 2006
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Using includegraphics
> From: "Peter Dyballa" <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:30:38 +0200
>
>
> Am 11.06.2006 um 22:15 schrieb Marcus Michalsky:
>
>> is there an option to make them appear, where I had defined them ?
>
> \begin{figure}[h]
> \begin{figure}[h!]
>
> --
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>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Using includegraphics
> From: "Maarten Sneep" <maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:37:33 +0200
>
>
> On 11 Jun 2006, at 22:15, Marcus Michalsky wrote:
>
>> I write a report for a practical course mobile communications.
>>
>> I will include some images.
>>
>> I use
>>
>> \usepackage[dvips]{graphics}
>
> Don't specify the engine you'll be using. The graphics (or better
> yet: the graphicx) package will figure it out all for itself.
>
>> and
>>
>> \begin{figure}
>>   \begin{center}
>>   \scalebox{.4}{\includegraphics{gfx/rtscts.ps}}
>>   \caption{RTS/CTS}
>>   \label{rtscts}
>>   \end{center}
>> \end{figure}
>
> With the graphicx package, you can use \includegraphics[scale=0.4]
> {gfx/rtscts.ps}
> And please try to use real .eps files for figure inclusion. If you
> leave out the extension, you'll be able to generate the pdf version
> as well, and use either tex + ghostscript or pdftex on the same source.
>
>> So far so good, BUT !!!!! All of the images appear on the top of
>> the page, no matter where i define them.
>> All go to the top of the page. is there an option to make them
>> appear, where I had defined them ?
>
> FAQ:
> http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=floats
> (and browse the rest of the FAQ for other good ideas).
>
> HTMH,
>
> Maarten
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Location of print spool files
> From: "Peter Dyballa" <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:55:42 +0200
>
>
> Am 11.06.2006 um 01:20 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
>
>> - In Terminal:
>>
>> legimc11:spool brunovoisin$ sudo -H xterm -ls
>> Password:
>> sudo: xterm: command not found
>
> Could be that root has only the too short default PATH that does not
> comprise /usr/X11R6/bin. 'Sudo xterm' *might* help, what will work
> is: 'sudo -H /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm' — but we've seen already better
> propositions!
>
>>
>> - In Apple's X11:
>>
>> legimc11:brunovoisin brunovoisin$ sudo -H xterm -ls
>> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
>> Xlib: No protocol specified
>
> This is part of an old safety mechanism in X11. The defaults command
> can change this behaviour for the next X11 session. Temporarily
> 'xhost root@' would allow "root access" to X11 — as guest on this
> display!
>
> --
> Greetings
>
>    Pete
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>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Was: Newbie questions, now ReadMe.html
> From: "Peter Dyballa" <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:02:43 +0200
>
>
> Am 08.06.2006 um 16:33 schrieb Gary L. Gray:
>
>>> Do you think something could be arranged with Gary Gray or Joe
>>> Slater, so that your setup is available online from the Mac OS X
>>> TeX web site < http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/>, for others to
>>> experiment with it?
>>
>>
>> We can host most anything you want us to here. Send it along and I
>> can put it on the server. Joe can add links from the MacTeX web
>> site if you desire.
>
> Hello!
>
> I have spent some hours yesterday and today to write a documentation
> on the (Platypus based) application and the scripts to make X11 aware
> of a TeX system on this Mac. Since I am used a lot to X11 it's likely
> that I skip some details. Are there volunteers to "proof-read" my
> ReadMe.html file?
>
> --
> Greetings
>
>    Pete
>
> Make it simple, as simple as possible but no simpler.
>                                Albert Einstein
>
>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Upright digits in theorems
> From: "Timothy Van Zandt" <tvz1 at zandtwerk.org>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:07:06 +0200
>
> I am going to assume that "digits and such" means (a) digits, (b)
> various kinds of braces ([{, and (c) colon and semicolon.
>
> First we would need to think about what you want to achieve. I can see
> two options:
>
>   (1) Digits/braces/colons that represent math should be upright.
>
>   (2) All digits/braces/colons should be upright.
>
>
> It is clear that at least (1) should hold, because that is the way we
> typeset math. However, it ends up looking awkward and confusing to have
> italic digits/braces/colons juxtaposed with upright  
> digit/braces/colons.
> And italicized enumerators in lists are also awkward. So, though (2) is
> not typographically pure, it can be a better solution.
>
> [Given that italicizing letters is used as a way to distinguish math
> variables, italicizing theorems as a way to add emphasis is not a great
> solution. However, it is what we do so we live with it. To limit the
> scope of this problem, I use acceptable convention of not italicizing
> definitions, assumptions, and remarks (distinguishing between
> "theorem-like assertions" and other blocks).]
>
> Example:
>    Then $X$ is isomorphic to a $2$-dimensional submanifold (which is
> locally rooted by $(x,y)$); if Assumption 5 also holds, then ...
>
> Under (1), "2" is upright but 5 is italic; the two parentheses around
> the parenthetic comment are italic as is the semicolon.
>
> Under (2), "2" and "5" are both upright; all the parentheses are
> upright; so is the semicolon
>
>
> If you want to achieve just (1), then the easy solution is to just set
> the numbers and such in math mode, even if that would not be noticeable
> if the font were not italic.
>
> If you want to achieve (2), then it is tedious to manually switch to
> roman font for digits/braces/colons. One should create a special  
> theorem
> font (virtual font) that is a mix of italic letters and upright
> digits/braces/colons, with proper kerning between all of them. One may
> want some exceptions to the rule---e.g., maybe one wants to use upright
> digits even as enumerators in lists, but one prefers to italicize
> "Assumption 5" because the italic "Assumption" and the digit "5" are a
> unit; then one would have to switch fonts for the occasional exception.
> This is still easier than switching fonts for all upright
> digits/braces/colons.
>
> tim van zandt
>
>
> Alex Scorpan wrote:
>> What is the most elegant and robust way to arrange that digits and  
>> such
>> always display upright inside a theorem-like environment, when the
>> surrounding text is italic?  This is for a rather large-scale  
>> application.
>>
>> Our current approach is to make the various characters active inside  
>> the
>> theorem environment and define them as \textup{...}.  However, that
>> creates problems if anybody uses, say, a label with a digit or a  
>> \vskip
>> or whatever.
>>
>> -- Alex
>>
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