[OS X TeX] OS X TeX newbie needs help installing TeX on non-boot volume
rjmm-lists1 at fireflyuk.net
Sat Sep 10 18:01:36 CEST 2005
> On Sep 10, 2005, at 8:41 AM, Rowland McDonnell wrote:
> > Hello,
> > My subject line says it all. I've been using OzTeX for a while
> > System 6.0.7 was the latest and greatest) and I've got CMacTeX for
> > pdfTeX these days. I've looked at what one can apparently do with a
> > modern OS X TeX setup and thought `I want some of that'. So I
> > tried to
> > install a teTeX based TeX and hit a brick wall: I can't work out
> > how to
> > install things in non-standard places.
> > <snip>
> I don't know that you can very easily (easily depends on your skill
Not at all. It depends on my knowledge level - which is negligible in
this case. I haven't a clue what to do with i-installer or TeTeX and
don't really understand anything that's going on - and don't know where
to go to find out more.
My skill level is extremely high in many areas. This does not help when
one cannot get basic facts about `stuff'.
My skill level is high enough to click the required element in the UI -
I can see where i-installer provides a button to `change install
location'. But I don't know the consequences of telling it to install
somewhere other than standard.
> i-Installer (and other tetex distributions) install inside
> the /usr/local directory (not as an application bundle or such).
I know. And as I say, I want to make it install the software somewhere
> is possible that you could create a "local" directory elsewhere and
> create a symbolic link to it named /usr/local
> cd /usr
> sudo ln -s /Volumes/otherdrive/local local
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
Of course I can create folders and make links to 'em.
What relevance does this have to installing teTeX and friends somewhere
other than standard?
Perhaps I am being stupid, but I can't see anything to help me here.
> However, I wouldn't bother with this for two reasons:
> a) Reinstalling this stuff, should something go wrong with your hard
> drive, is easy, especially if you've kept the i-Installer source
However, it does take time and effort. And that time and effort applies
to every other bit of software installed.
> b) If that external drive
Which external drive?
> isn't mounted when you do an install by
> accident, you can easily end up creating a directory in the place of
> "otherdrive", and this can become a modest mess, especially for a
> novice(not implied). I had a backup script that I used once that did
> this. My backups ended up worthless after a while because apparently
> the drive wasn't mounted once during backups, new directory was
Yes, but that's got nothing to do with how I work and what I have here.
> My take on having another drive for the reasons you mention is that:
> a) I used to do it, but only with documents (things I can't easily
I have three internal HDDs and four HD volumes. One vol is `OS and
swap', one is `user data', one is `archive/backup', and one is `added
apps and misc junk'.
I have to keep some apps on the OS/swap volume because, for example,
Apple's version checks don't work on Apple apps unless they're in the
place Apple decrees one must keep them.
(the archive/backup volume finds bits of it copied to external media
quite often - I don't rely on it as my sole backup)
> b) OS X has significantly mitigated these risks from my experience
OS X is the reason I want to do it. I never worried about the need to
wipe and re-install until I `upgraded' to this allegedly wonderful
`modern' (i.e., born in the 1960s) operating system, allegedly so much
better than what we had before.
I've lost count of the number of times I've had to wipe and re-install
since I got OS X. It's a major pain - compared to System 6 and System 7
at least. I never had to wipe and re-install when I used those OSes
(oops! I lied - I did have to do that once, after a freeware disc
defragger did the dirty on me one day. Well, serves me right, doesn't
More than that, keeping adding software and user documents off the boot
volume means I can use a small partition for it. Handy - leaves the
rest of that particular disc for other stuff that I can keep segregated.
Okay, so a disc hardware fault will take out both partitions, so I keep
my backups elesewhere.
> c) Disk Warrior has saved almost everything I ever thought was
> otherwise lost (using any other disk recovery software)
I have Disk Warrior X, and it has proven incapable of fixing any of the
problems that have caused me to need to wipe and re-install. It's
nothing like as useful as it was with OS 9.
> d) Proper backups AND archiving is the only proper way to secure your
> data. The extra drive trick really only moves your vulnerability...
> useful in OS<10, but not in my observation since.
However, even when (like me) you do have proper archiving and proper
backups, you still have to spend time and effort putting stuff back - if
you've not kept things separate. If you *do* keep your apps elsewhere,
you don't need to spend anything like as much time restoring as and when
things go horribly pear-shaped (just restore yer Library folder,
really). And horribly pear-shaped is what you get when MacOS X screws
up in my experience.
Now, because I decided to keep added software and user data on a volume
other than my boot volume, I partitioned my boot volume to be relatively
small. I don't think adding quite that much data would be sensible.
I have three internal hard disc drives. No external drives hooked up at
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