[OS X TeX] MathSciNet to BibDesk

Adam R. Maxwell amaxwell at mac.com
Tue Jul 19 06:24:21 CEST 2005


On Jul 18, 2005, at 20:21, Michael McCracken wrote:

> Hi, This is really good feedback. I think the only reason it  
> doesn't do something more like what you suggest is that we are all  
> used to the current way of doing things, and the 'new publication  
> from pasteboard' command is relatively new to most bibdesk users,  
> especially the developers. I just always thought of it as a special  
> case.

I agree that this is really valuable feedback.  I'm so used to  
pasting/dragging BibTeX directly that I very seldom look at the menus.

>
> I've forwarded your mail to the developers mailing list for  
> discussion.
> There's still time to beat us to it and submit a patch, though! :)

Time's up ;).  I just checked in a patch that sniffs the pasteboard  
for BibTeX or RIS when you use that menu item, and adds directly if  
that's the case.

>
> I'd like to specifically encourage this kind of feedback - even if  
> there is another way to do what you want to do (and there are lots  
> of ways to enter data in BibDesk), if it doesn't do the first thing  
> you think of, I'm curious what we're missing.

Seconded!  Feedback from new/occasional users usually points out  
things that we've never thought of.

-- 
Adam

>
>
> On Jul 18, 2005, at 7:02 PM, Vinayak Vatsal wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks. I now understand what to do. I just didn't understand the  
>> documentation properly.
>>
>> I think the confusion is that "new publication from pasteboard"  
>> should do different things automatically, depending on whether it  
>> receives a structured or non-structured input. If it gets BibTex/ 
>> RIS, it should add it automatically. If it gets something it can't  
>> parse, it should offer the present behavior.
>>
>> After all, both ways give new publications from the data in the  
>> pasteboard -- there's no reason why there should be two different  
>> commands to enter it.
>>
>> Anyway, just an idea.
>>
>>
>>
>> The point should be to make very clear that certain kinds of  
>> structured data can be entered
>>
>> --On July 18, 2005 6:35:47 PM -0700 "Adam R. Maxwell"  
>> <amaxwell at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2005, at 18:23, Vinayak Vatsal wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess this is my question -- what is the "main pub list"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The main window that lists all of your publications, with one row  
>>> for
>>> each pub.  Technically it's an NSTableView, if that helps.  Just   
>>> bring
>>> BibDesk to the front by clicking BibDesk's icon on the dock,  and  
>>> hit
>>> paste (if you have BibTeX or RIS on the clipboard).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> All I can figure out to do is copy the listing provided by
>>>> MathSciNet, select "New publication from pasteboard" and then
>>>> manually add each field. But surely there's a smarter way?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Any of the ways I mentioned are better; if you can offer  
>>> suggestions  or
>>> rewrites of our documentation to be more friendly for new users,   
>>> that
>>> would be most welcome!
>>>
>>> My recommendation is this:  if you're using a web browser which   
>>> supports
>>> Services, select the BibTeX or RIS, go to the application's  menu  
>>> (e.g.
>>> OmniWeb) -> Services -> BibDesk -> Add to bibliography  (you  
>>> should have
>>> a bibliography open for this).
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 18, 2005, at 5:58 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 18, 2005, at 17:51, Vinayak Vatsal wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Right, it's easy (but sometimes painful if there are many
>>>>>> records) to copy and paste stuff in to the right places.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I was wondering if there's some way for BibDesk to parse the
>>>>>> BibTex entry provided by MathSciNet and put everything in the
>>>>>> right place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Copy a BibTeX entry (or multiple entries) such as
>>>>>
>>>>> @book{whole-set,
>>>>>     Author = {Knuth, Donald E.},
>>>>>     Note = {Seven volumes planned (this is a cross-referenced set
>>>>> of BOOKs)},
>>>>>     Publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
>>>>>     Series = {Four volumes},
>>>>>     Title = {The Art of Computer Programming},
>>>>>     Year = {{\noopsort{1973a}}{\switchargs{--90}{1968}}}}
>>>>>
>>>>> and paste the text as BibTeX into BibDesk's main pub list; same
>>>>> thing works for RIS.  You can also drag the selected BibTeX or RIS
>>>>> text in to BibDesk, or use the Services menu to add to the
>>>>> frontmost bibliography.  All of this should be covered clearly in
>>>>> the online help under 5.1 "Adding References".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Fernando Pereira wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Claus Gerhardt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Copy and paste.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He said "efficiently" ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have suggestions for improving the efficiency of the
>>>>> process as outlined, please let us know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> --------------------- Info ---------------------
>>>>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>>>>>           & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
>>>>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>>>>> List Post: <mailto:MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------- Info ---------------------
>>>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>>>>           & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
>>>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>>>> List Post: <mailto:MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------- Info ---------------------
>>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>>>            & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
>>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>>> List Post: <mailto:MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------
>> Vinayak Vatsal
>> Department of Mathematics
>> University of British Columbia
>> Vancouver, BC
>> Canada --------------------- Info ---------------------
>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>>           & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>> List Post: <mailto:MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>     Michael McCracken
>     michael_mccracken at mac.com
>     http://michael-mccracken.net/
>
>
> --------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>           & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post: <mailto:MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
>
>
>

--------------------- Info ---------------------
Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
           & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
List Post: <mailto:MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>





More information about the Macostex-archives mailing list