[OS X TeX] Doh!

Alexandru Scorpan ascorpan at math.ufl.edu
Wed Nov 17 14:39:31 CET 2004


Are we done with this pointless discussion?

Alex


> In other words, like the French Republic, one and undivisible, on the 
> one hand, and mathematics, on the other hand, a LaTeX editor can only 
> exist in one and only one form.
> And, as for those who don't make it in the world, it is only because 
> they don't want to.
> Regards
> --schremmer
>
> Dr.John R.Vokey wrote:
>
>> C'mon people.  LaTeX is as LaTeX is, as the quote below makes clear.. 
>>  It's cool; it's fine.  For those who dig it.  And not, for those who 
>> don't.  I have given up proselteyzing: I have done what I can do, and 
>> it rarely works.  All of my students and former students (and those 
>> who they have infected, in turn) use LaTeX.  A legacy of sorts (born 
>> of the simple rule that no M$ Crapola is tolerated on my lab 
>> computers).  The rest: don't.  They are not my concern.  As Washoe 
>> (the Chimpanzee) so aptly observed, they are ``bugs''---beyond my (or 
>> Washoe's) ken.  So what?  Leave them to M$ Absurd, and other equally 
>> laughable POS applications.  Why would you (or we) care?  Yes, we all 
>> would like LaTeX to be easier for the uninitiated.  And, no, it can't 
>> really get any easier than it is and still be LaTeX (see LyX).  So, 
>> who cares?  If they want M$ Absurd, so be it.  As a senior scientist, 
>> I demand at a minimum a pdf (in correct APA format) before I 
>> review---not some POS M$ Absurd document that rarely translates 
>> anyway.  Otherwise, I don't review.  Simple.  On the other side: a 
>> journal that refuses to review my *perfectly APA formatted pdf* (via 
>> apa.cls) submission, never sees my submissions again.  Again, simple. 
>>  You don't have to tolerate shite, so don't.  Or not: it is your 
>> life.  Pick your battles.
>>
>>
>> On 16-Nov-04, at 6:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Re. Making LaTeX simple enough. I am simply not convinced that it is
>>>> not feasible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Many smart people have tried to put WYSIWYG front-ends on typesetting
>>> languages for over 25 years. They all failed. The reason is that the
>>> syntax and meaning of typesetting languages like TeX are too rich and
>>> subtle for simple-to-use visual metaphors. sooner or later, and
>>> typically sooner, the underlying language "leaks out" from under the
>>> visual interface.
>>>
>>> -- F
>>
>> -- 
>> John R. Vokey, PhD
>> Professor
>> B.E.R.G. - Behaviour and Evolution Research Group
>> Micro-Cognition Laboratory
>> Department of Psychology & Neuroscience
>> University of Lethbridge
>> Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4
>> CANADA
>>
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