[OS X TeX] Doh!

Alain Schremmer Schremmer.Alain at verizon.net
Wed Nov 17 14:31:37 CET 2004


In other words, like the French Republic, one and undivisible, on the 
one hand, and mathematics, on the other hand, a LaTeX editor can only 
exist in one and only one form.
And, as for those who don't make it in the world, it is only because 
they don't want to.
Regards
--schremmer

Dr.John R.Vokey wrote:

> C'mon people.  LaTeX is as LaTeX is, as the quote below makes clear..  
> It's cool; it's fine.  For those who dig it.  And not, for those who 
> don't.  I have given up proselteyzing: I have done what I can do, and 
> it rarely works.  All of my students and former students (and those 
> who they have infected, in turn) use LaTeX.  A legacy of sorts (born 
> of the simple rule that no M$ Crapola is tolerated on my lab 
> computers).  The rest: don't.  They are not my concern.  As Washoe 
> (the Chimpanzee) so aptly observed, they are ``bugs''---beyond my (or 
> Washoe's) ken.  So what?  Leave them to M$ Absurd, and other equally 
> laughable POS applications.  Why would you (or we) care?  Yes, we all 
> would like LaTeX to be easier for the uninitiated.  And, no, it can't 
> really get any easier than it is and still be LaTeX (see LyX).  So, 
> who cares?  If they want M$ Absurd, so be it.  As a senior scientist, 
> I demand at a minimum a pdf (in correct APA format) before I 
> review---not some POS M$ Absurd document that rarely translates 
> anyway.  Otherwise, I don't review.  Simple.  On the other side: a 
> journal that refuses to review my *perfectly APA formatted pdf* (via 
> apa.cls) submission, never sees my submissions again.  Again, simple.  
> You don't have to tolerate shite, so don't.  Or not: it is your life.  
> Pick your battles.
>
>
> On 16-Nov-04, at 6:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote:
>
>> On Nov 15, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
>>
>>> Re. Making LaTeX simple enough. I am simply not convinced that it is
>>> not feasible.
>>
>>
>> Many smart people have tried to put WYSIWYG front-ends on typesetting
>> languages for over 25 years. They all failed. The reason is that the
>> syntax and meaning of typesetting languages like TeX are too rich and
>> subtle for simple-to-use visual metaphors. sooner or later, and
>> typically sooner, the underlying language "leaks out" from under the
>> visual interface.
>>
>> -- F
>
> -- 
> John R. Vokey, PhD
> Professor
> B.E.R.G. - Behaviour and Evolution Research Group
> Micro-Cognition Laboratory
> Department of Psychology & Neuroscience
> University of Lethbridge
> Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4
> CANADA
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