[latexrefman-discuss] \newenvironment (non starred) vs \newenvironment* (starred)

Johannes Böttcher johannesbottcher at domain.hid
Tue Nov 10 10:47:04 CET 2015


Shouldn't taboos get to l2tabu instead of a reference manual?

On 11/10/2015 10:00 AM, Vincent Belaïche wrote:
>>>   encouraging the starred form, arguments of environments should not
>>>   contain multiple paragraphs.
>>
>> Some environments should not, others should.  I don't see any reason to
>> either encourage or discourage either form in a reference manual.  It
>> should describe the facts of what's available.  -k
>
> Well, one of the factual facts is that when you don't need paragraphs in
> the argument, then telling it to LaTeX helps you locating easier and
> quicker any error. TeX will give out a more explicit error message
> because the error is detected earlier in the compilation. This is
> exactly what Manuel wrote here:
>
> https://elzevir.fr/imj/latex/tips.html#ncstared
>
> So this is a judgement, but it is based on facts.
>
> Also discouraging eqnarray is another judgement:
>
> https://elzevir.fr/imj/latex/tips.html#eqnarray
>
> When there are facts why one should do this way or not this way,
> shouldn't we give these facts, that is the purpose of LaTeX tabus...
>
> http://www.ctan.org/pkg/l2tabu-english
>
> For instance, should we update \sloppy node to indicate that some people
> consider it a LaTeX taboo ?
>
>    Vincent.
>
> 2015-11-07 0:30 GMT+01:00 Karl Berry <karl at domain.hid>:
>>      encouraging the starred form, arguments of environments should not
>>      contain multiple paragraphs.
>>
>> Some environments should not, others should.  I don't see any reason to
>> either encourage or discourage either form in a reference manual.  It
>> should describe the facts of what's available.  -k
>>
>>
>




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